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Wow, this shows how out of touch I am with social media and technology. I know that Apple's 3d-camera phones enable chat via Animoji, but that applies a cartoon

by danso 7y ago

Wow, this shows how out of touch I am with social media and technology. I know that Apple's 3d-camera phones enable chat via Animoji, but that applies a cartoon image across your face. I didn't realize reality-enhancement filters (e.g. face thinners) were good enough to work in real-time? I'm confused because the links in the article just show the woman's real face [0], and not footage of when the filter was actually working. I guess I expected to see the glitching in real-time, like the "Mission Impossible" hallway scene [1] [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8m4jYaALIA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8m4jYaALIA [1] https://youtu.be/qtA0JS1lBaY?t=359 https://youtu.be/qtA0JS1lBaY?t=359

notimetorelax 7y ago
Reading the article it appears that everyone knew that this was a filter. She asked for 100k donation to reveal her face, but no one donated this much yet.
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chipperyman573 7y ago
The tech is pretty grown up at this point... If you open up snapchat and hold down on your face while the selfie camera is active, a lot of masks will show up that change your face in real-time. One of these swaps your gender (and does a pretty good job of it to be honest). And this is just running on a phone (including android where there's no AI chip like in iphones), I'm sure with a computer you can do much better!
- danso 7y ago
  Ok, I found an example (I don't have snapchat installed) of one of these filters working on video (not sure if it would work for live streaming): https://www.cnet.com/how-to/want-to-try-that-gender-face-swap-thing-everyones-doing-heres-how/ https://www.cnet.com/how-to/want-to-try-that-gender-face-swa... I guess it looks...obviously like a filter, with particular distortion around the hair? In the BBC story's lede image [0], which purports to be two photos of the same vlogger, with and without the filter, her "filtered" face is substantially slimmed, yet the hair near the software-slimmed contours of the face looks, not fake at all? [0] https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/123E0/production/_108102747_picofwoman.jpg https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/123E0/production...
danso 7y ago
Someone on Twitter says this: https://twitter.com/huizhong_wu/status/1156349675831615488 https://twitter.com/huizhong_wu/status/1156349675831615488 > If you watch this vid from a Chinese site it says she used to cover up her face with a cartoon photo onscreen and would post filtered photos and short vids. Think it’s that she forgot to put up the photo for the live http://n.miaopai.com/media/ffdEpeNnTdRPa4ABk8DJa-zgvC~FDYrT http://n.miaopai.com/media/ffdEpeNnTdRPa4ABk8DJa-zgvC~FDYrT
WheelsAtLarge 7y ago
I was also shocked as to well the real-time filters work. I suspect it's also a sign of how china tech is beginning to lead rather than follow on how technology is used in everyday life. They have 100's of millions of people that have embraced technology as part of their daily life so companies have a large audience where they can try new tech.
rasz 7y ago
It was a Photo with moving lips, not an amazing whole upper body render.
bidluo 7y ago
There's some images attached to this post [0], if you've used snapchat or tiktok/douyin they have pretty decent filters baked in but I guess the magic is making the video quality low enough to 'smooth' out the effect. Also found an article [1] that looks at how much people are willing to spend and how far people are willing to go to hide their real look, things like buying silicon upper body suit(?) to get better looking boobs/frame or voice changers [0] https://weibo.com/3824282019/HFtfQzAcw https://weibo.com/3824282019/HFtfQzAcw [1] http://www.sohu.com/a/330373892_100117963 http://www.sohu.com/a/330373892_100117963 (mildly NSFW)
flukus 7y ago
> Wow, this shows how out of touch I am with social media and technology. Doesn't it have to be done in real time for selfie cameras to work? I'm also behind the 8-ball and somehow only recently learned of smartphones shipping with reality distortion fields on by default: https://www.insider.com/samsung-phones-default-beauty-mode-camera-airbrush-2016-6 https://www.insider.com/samsung-phones-default-beauty-mode-c.... I wonder if we'll hit the point of photo/video evidence being unadmissible evidence?

by danso 7y ago

notimetorelax 7y ago

Reading the article it appears that everyone knew that this was a filter. She asked for 100k donation to reveal her face, but no one donated this much yet.

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chipperyman573 7y ago

The tech is pretty grown up at this point... If you open up snapchat and hold down on your face while the selfie camera is active, a lot of masks will show up that change your face in real-time. One of these swaps your gender (and does a pretty good job of it to be honest). And this is just running on a phone (including android where there's no AI chip like in iphones), I'm sure with a computer you can do much better!

danso 7y ago
Ok, I found an example (I don't have snapchat installed) of one of these filters working on video (not sure if it would work for live streaming): https://www.cnet.com/how-to/want-to-try-that-gender-face-swap-thing-everyones-doing-heres-how/ https://www.cnet.com/how-to/want-to-try-that-gender-face-swa... I guess it looks...obviously like a filter, with particular distortion around the hair? In the BBC story's lede image [0], which purports to be two photos of the same vlogger, with and without the filter, her "filtered" face is substantially slimmed, yet the hair near the software-slimmed contours of the face looks, not fake at all? [0] https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/123E0/production/_108102747_picofwoman.jpg https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/123E0/production...

danso 7y ago

Someone on Twitter says this: https://twitter.com/huizhong_wu/status/1156349675831615488 https://twitter.com/huizhong_wu/status/1156349675831615488 > If you watch this vid from a Chinese site it says she used to cover up her face with a cartoon photo onscreen and would post filtered photos and short vids. Think it’s that she forgot to put up the photo for the live http://n.miaopai.com/media/ffdEpeNnTdRPa4ABk8DJa-zgvC~FDYrT http://n.miaopai.com/media/ffdEpeNnTdRPa4ABk8DJa-zgvC~FDYrT

WheelsAtLarge 7y ago

I was also shocked as to well the real-time filters work. I suspect it's also a sign of how china tech is beginning to lead rather than follow on how technology is used in everyday life. They have 100's of millions of people that have embraced technology as part of their daily life so companies have a large audience where they can try new tech.

rasz 7y ago

It was a Photo with moving lips, not an amazing whole upper body render.

bidluo 7y ago

There's some images attached to this post [0], if you've used snapchat or tiktok/douyin they have pretty decent filters baked in but I guess the magic is making the video quality low enough to 'smooth' out the effect. Also found an article [1] that looks at how much people are willing to spend and how far people are willing to go to hide their real look, things like buying silicon upper body suit(?) to get better looking boobs/frame or voice changers [0] https://weibo.com/3824282019/HFtfQzAcw https://weibo.com/3824282019/HFtfQzAcw [1] http://www.sohu.com/a/330373892_100117963 http://www.sohu.com/a/330373892_100117963 (mildly NSFW)

flukus 7y ago

> Wow, this shows how out of touch I am with social media and technology. Doesn't it have to be done in real time for selfie cameras to work? I'm also behind the 8-ball and somehow only recently learned of smartphones shipping with reality distortion fields on by default: https://www.insider.com/samsung-phones-default-beauty-mode-camera-airbrush-2016-6 https://www.insider.com/samsung-phones-default-beauty-mode-c.... I wonder if we'll hit the point of photo/video evidence being unadmissible evidence?