> I guess the issue is that very little discovered internally will ever be publicly disclosed. It feels like a tactic to make themselves look more secure than o

> I guess the issue is that very little discovered internally will ever be publicly disclosed. It feels like a tactic to make themselves look more secure than others when that is not likely the case. Agreed, and I don't think for a second Google as a whole is any different in this regard. But who cares? Security issues are being found, Security issues are being publicized, Security issues are being fixed. Project Zero, as a small part of Google, is finding bugs in everyones software - including Google's - and holding them to the same standards, standards which are widely regarded as being acceptable standards for disclosure. The rest of Google, should they discover an issue without Project Zero's help, presumably behave just as most of other companies do - so hate them all equally, that's fine - and I agree, but Project Zero is different to Google as a whole, and just is not something to hate IMO.