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> her fans urged her to show her face and remove her filter but she refused, instead apparently saying: "I can't show my face until I receive gifts worth 100,00

by mLuby 7y ago

> her fans urged her to show her face and remove her filter but she refused, instead apparently saying: "I can't show my face until I receive gifts worth 100,000 yuan ($11,950). After all, I'm a good-looking host." Followers began to send her donations with the largest reported to be 40,000 yuan ($5,813, £4,780) during the session. > The story has been incredibly popular across Chinese social networks with more than 600 million people reading posts that use a hashtag which translates to "female vlogger experiences bug showing her old lady face" > many live-streamers simply sing karaoke in their bedrooms, or eat snacks for hours on end.

aiscapehumanity 7y ago
Good documentary on this comes from 'Peoples Republic of Desire'. Live-streaming is considerably more mainstream, advanced, and in many cases an actual industry in itself now, outside of the west: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWdg8d18Tfs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWdg8d18Tfs
- sverige 7y ago
  There are quite a few making a living from live-streaming in the Anglosphere as well. I'm amazed that men send money. (OK, maybe amazed is the wrong word.) I remember reading a while back about some controversy that some of the female live-streamers were being reported to the IRS for unreported income, with the IRS sending audit notices to them.
  - themattress 7y ago
    I think the a bunch of trolls, probably the incel crowd on 4chan and the like got that going: https://nypost.com/2018/11/27/internet-trolls-are-threatening-to-report-sex-workers-to-the-irs/ https://nypost.com/2018/11/27/internet-trolls-are-threatenin...
    - sverige 7y ago
      That's it. I forgot they were sexually explicit. Apparently those in TFA are not.
      - themattress 7y ago
        From what I recall from various forums and reddit threads it was not just users who generated sexually explicit content, but any streamer judged to be a “thot”.
  - wpietri 7y ago
    One phenomenon across the animal kingdom is the nuptial gift, where giving expensive resources is used to prove fitness for mating: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuptial_gift https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuptial_gift I first came across the concept in the delightful book "Dr Tatiana's Sex Advice to All Creation", which covers the evolutionary biology of reproduction in the form of an advice column with letters from birds, insects, etc: https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Tatianas-Sex-Advice-Creation/dp/0805063315/ https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Tatianas-Sex-Advice-Creation/dp/08...
INTPenis 7y ago
I want an interview with someone who is willing to donate over a thousand dollars to a person they're watching talk on a webcam.
- mattnewton 7y ago
  It is crazy, they aren’t even promising heaven or sex. I guess they must get a sense of companionship?
- crocbuzz 7y ago
  Go on some of the most popular Twitch.tv channels, you'll see lots of that happening. Too many to count on two hands. It's unbelievable and quite sad.
  - Diederich 7y ago
    > quite sad. I wonder if you can expand on that.
    - stereographic 7y ago
      I think the idea is the trope that people who donate "thousands of dollars" to a random person on twitch are probably lonely. I'm not into the streaming community much though, but that would be my assumption of what they meant
    - read_if_gay_ 7y ago
      It’s not sad if you can afford it and enjoy the content created by the streamer. I can see why one might call it sad though if you are donating significant amounts of money relative to your spending capacities to someone that you wouldn’t donate to if they looked differently.
    - munk-a 7y ago
      I cannot conceive of how being able to view someone carries an equal value for a person as a week or two in Cancun chilling - or how they can spend money that easily that took them weeks of their life to earn through labour[1]. [1] There's a segment of the population that I'm ignoring those that are either trust fund babies or useless economic leeches, when those people blow 100k on a car that they immediate crash I just shrug - but I know a lot of the people following these cams are actually working people (probably white collar, but still actually working for a living).

by mLuby 7y ago

aiscapehumanity 7y ago

Good documentary on this comes from 'Peoples Republic of Desire'. Live-streaming is considerably more mainstream, advanced, and in many cases an actual industry in itself now, outside of the west: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWdg8d18Tfs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWdg8d18Tfs

sverige 7y ago
There are quite a few making a living from live-streaming in the Anglosphere as well. I'm amazed that men send money. (OK, maybe amazed is the wrong word.) I remember reading a while back about some controversy that some of the female live-streamers were being reported to the IRS for unreported income, with the IRS sending audit notices to them.
- themattress 7y ago
  I think the a bunch of trolls, probably the incel crowd on 4chan and the like got that going: https://nypost.com/2018/11/27/internet-trolls-are-threatening-to-report-sex-workers-to-the-irs/ https://nypost.com/2018/11/27/internet-trolls-are-threatenin...
  - sverige 7y ago
    That's it. I forgot they were sexually explicit. Apparently those in TFA are not.
    - themattress 7y ago
      From what I recall from various forums and reddit threads it was not just users who generated sexually explicit content, but any streamer judged to be a “thot”.
- wpietri 7y ago
  One phenomenon across the animal kingdom is the nuptial gift, where giving expensive resources is used to prove fitness for mating: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuptial_gift https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuptial_gift I first came across the concept in the delightful book "Dr Tatiana's Sex Advice to All Creation", which covers the evolutionary biology of reproduction in the form of an advice column with letters from birds, insects, etc: https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Tatianas-Sex-Advice-Creation/dp/0805063315/ https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Tatianas-Sex-Advice-Creation/dp/08...

INTPenis 7y ago

I want an interview with someone who is willing to donate over a thousand dollars to a person they're watching talk on a webcam.

mattnewton 7y ago
It is crazy, they aren’t even promising heaven or sex. I guess they must get a sense of companionship?
crocbuzz 7y ago
Go on some of the most popular Twitch.tv channels, you'll see lots of that happening. Too many to count on two hands. It's unbelievable and quite sad.
- Diederich 7y ago
  > quite sad. I wonder if you can expand on that.
  - stereographic 7y ago
    I think the idea is the trope that people who donate "thousands of dollars" to a random person on twitch are probably lonely. I'm not into the streaming community much though, but that would be my assumption of what they meant
  - read_if_gay_ 7y ago
    It’s not sad if you can afford it and enjoy the content created by the streamer. I can see why one might call it sad though if you are donating significant amounts of money relative to your spending capacities to someone that you wouldn’t donate to if they looked differently.
  - munk-a 7y ago
    I cannot conceive of how being able to view someone carries an equal value for a person as a week or two in Cancun chilling - or how they can spend money that easily that took them weeks of their life to earn through labour[1]. [1] There's a segment of the population that I'm ignoring those that are either trust fund babies or useless economic leeches, when those people blow 100k on a car that they immediate crash I just shrug - but I know a lot of the people following these cams are actually working people (probably white collar, but still actually working for a living).