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They are competing in the free market. Users are free to not use their software and there are many other choices. You seem to be objecting to the manner in wh

They are competing in the free market. Users are free to not use their software and there are many other choices. You seem to be objecting to the manner in which they compete.

Wowfunhappy 7y ago
> You seem to be objecting to the manner in which they compete. I absolutely am! There is such a thing as unfair competition. As I see it, Apple is using their existing dominance to create barriers to entry for new players. I'm free to avoid Amazon too, but as increasing amounts of society move to Amazon as the de-facto web store for everything, how reasonable is it to fully boycott them? Sure it's possible, but it would be a substantial life commitment.
- PascLeRasc 7y ago
  Many of us are boycotting Amazon by accident, I don't think it's a substantial life commitment. What have you wanted to buy from Amazon that you can't find elsewhere?
- reaperducer 7y ago
  Apple is using their existing dominance to create barriers to entry for new players. The number one phone manufacturer is Samsung, not Apple. Huawei is number two.
- IOT_Apprentice 7y ago
  Both Samsung and Huawei build more phones than Apple does. There are more Android phones than iOS phones, so exactly who has market dominance? No one is forcing you to buy Apple products. I'll take a more secure and privacy focused platform.
- briandear 7y ago
  How did they achieve dominance? Perhaps it’s because of the very features that you consider bugs?
  - asark 7y ago
    Seriously. If not for Apple's ability to keep apps from fucking with device performance and battery life (too badly, anyway) and to make their OS and overall app ecosystem relatively secure & reliable, I might as well save money and buy Android. Then just not use my phone anywhere near as much, and be less happy when I do, I guess.
Majromax 7y ago
> They are competing in the free market. Users are free to not use their software and there are many other choices. Users are not free to use other software on Apple hardware. The operative question is how we define the market. Is the operative market "all smartphones," or are iOS devices distinct enough to qualify as a market of their own? The answer isn't clear to me, especially because there are a variety of soft barriers. Even if "all smartphones" is the relevant market, phones are expensive; it takes on the order of $1k to walk away from an iPhone X in favour of an equivalent Android device.

They are competing in the free market. Users are free to not use their software and there are many other choices. You seem to be objecting to the manner in which they compete.

Wowfunhappy 7y ago

> You seem to be objecting to the manner in which they compete. I absolutely am! There is such a thing as unfair competition. As I see it, Apple is using their existing dominance to create barriers to entry for new players. I'm free to avoid Amazon too, but as increasing amounts of society move to Amazon as the de-facto web store for everything, how reasonable is it to fully boycott them? Sure it's possible, but it would be a substantial life commitment.

PascLeRasc 7y ago
Many of us are boycotting Amazon by accident, I don't think it's a substantial life commitment. What have you wanted to buy from Amazon that you can't find elsewhere?
reaperducer 7y ago
Apple is using their existing dominance to create barriers to entry for new players. The number one phone manufacturer is Samsung, not Apple. Huawei is number two.
IOT_Apprentice 7y ago
Both Samsung and Huawei build more phones than Apple does. There are more Android phones than iOS phones, so exactly who has market dominance? No one is forcing you to buy Apple products. I'll take a more secure and privacy focused platform.
briandear 7y ago
How did they achieve dominance? Perhaps it’s because of the very features that you consider bugs?
- asark 7y ago
  Seriously. If not for Apple's ability to keep apps from fucking with device performance and battery life (too badly, anyway) and to make their OS and overall app ecosystem relatively secure & reliable, I might as well save money and buy Android. Then just not use my phone anywhere near as much, and be less happy when I do, I guess.

Majromax 7y ago

> They are competing in the free market. Users are free to not use their software and there are many other choices. Users are not free to use other software on Apple hardware. The operative question is how we define the market. Is the operative market "all smartphones," or are iOS devices distinct enough to qualify as a market of their own? The answer isn't clear to me, especially because there are a variety of soft barriers. Even if "all smartphones" is the relevant market, phones are expensive; it takes on the order of $1k to walk away from an iPhone X in favour of an equivalent Android device.