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>You undertake something dangerous, then death is a possibility that is understood. Just accept it. You dont live in an isolated bubble. You will call for help

>You undertake something dangerous, then death is a possibility that is understood. Just accept it. You dont live in an isolated bubble. You will call for help if lost or injured and it will be up to others to either take on the grueling task of mounting a rescue in such conditions or leaving you for dead while you beg for help on the radio. In reality they will have no choice but to put them self in danger to rescue an adventure tourist. With the given example of the magic bus its volunteer firefights who have to rescue these tourists.

nraynaud 7y ago
the same way as when they are in danger they will know someone else will try to save them, it's a society.
- cf141q5325 7y ago
  Except you dont put yourself recklessly in danger on purpose for fun relying on rescue infrastructure meant for accidents. Being reckless is not an accident nor should it be an emergency. I dont really see a difference to Everest tourism, where people push beyond their limits to reach the top hoping that someone will get them down again. And then there is an outcry when they cant be helped, like the media spectacle around David Sharp. He went up there without oxygen and people saw him dying right on the track unable to get him down. If you value your life so little its your choice, but please consider what that does to people who have to leave you begging or getting them to gamble their own life to save you.
  - nraynaud 7y ago
    "reckless" is an insult used to demean the victims, it's not objective. One day it's reckless the other day it's courageous, it all depends on wether you want to insult or glorify the people, there is no objective measure.
    - cf141q5325 7y ago
      If you voluntarily come ill-prepared into a life threatening situation to have fun you are reckless and selfish. It risks not just your life but the lives of the people around you. Glorifying this sort of behavior is completely irresponsible. edit: Did you reflect about how some people might take your posts here as a motivation for a grand adventure? Not thinking about it to much and just breaking out of the daily grind and experiencing the magic bus? edit2: I mean this is really beyond me, if anyone is actually thinking about doing something like this, think for one moment what you would tell the family of a rescuer who might die trying to save you from your own stupidity. That you are sorry?

nraynaud 7y ago

the same way as when they are in danger they will know someone else will try to save them, it's a society.

cf141q5325 7y ago
Except you dont put yourself recklessly in danger on purpose for fun relying on rescue infrastructure meant for accidents. Being reckless is not an accident nor should it be an emergency. I dont really see a difference to Everest tourism, where people push beyond their limits to reach the top hoping that someone will get them down again. And then there is an outcry when they cant be helped, like the media spectacle around David Sharp. He went up there without oxygen and people saw him dying right on the track unable to get him down. If you value your life so little its your choice, but please consider what that does to people who have to leave you begging or getting them to gamble their own life to save you.
- nraynaud 7y ago
  "reckless" is an insult used to demean the victims, it's not objective. One day it's reckless the other day it's courageous, it all depends on wether you want to insult or glorify the people, there is no objective measure.
  - cf141q5325 7y ago
    If you voluntarily come ill-prepared into a life threatening situation to have fun you are reckless and selfish. It risks not just your life but the lives of the people around you. Glorifying this sort of behavior is completely irresponsible. edit: Did you reflect about how some people might take your posts here as a motivation for a grand adventure? Not thinking about it to much and just breaking out of the daily grind and experiencing the magic bus? edit2: I mean this is really beyond me, if anyone is actually thinking about doing something like this, think for one moment what you would tell the family of a rescuer who might die trying to save you from your own stupidity. That you are sorry?