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Disabling server-side logging of Siri requests

81 points by chris-at 7y ago

dijit 7y ago
The .plist doesn’t appear malicious, but I wouldn’t ideally be installing random profiles like this from random places.
- dfeojm-zlib 7y ago
  How to make your own: https://www.idropnews.com/how-to/heres-how-to-stop-sharing-your-private-siri-interactions-with-apple/112990/ https://www.idropnews.com/how-to/heres-how-to-stop-sharing-y... It should look something like this (you'll have to remove a bunch of other unnecessary settings from the file to make it look list this): <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>PayloadContent</key> <array> <dict> <key>PayloadDescription</key> <string>Configures restrictions</string> <key>PayloadDisplayName</key> <string>Restrictions</string> <key>PayloadIdentifier</key> <string>com.apple.applicationaccess.masked</string> <key>PayloadType</key> <string>com.apple.applicationaccess</string> <key>PayloadUUID</key> <string>masked</string> <key>PayloadVersion</key> <integer>1</integer> <key>allowSiriServerLogging</key> <false/> </dict> </array> <key>PayloadDisplayName</key> <string>Prevent Siri from Logging Me</string> <key>PayloadIdentifier</key> <string>masked</string> <key>PayloadRemovalDisallowed</key> <false/> <key>PayloadType</key> <string>Configuration</string> <key>PayloadUUID</key> <string>masked</string> <key>PayloadVersion</key> <integer>1</integer> </dict> </plist>
- mikeash 7y ago
  Seems fine. iOS tells you exactly what the profile does and it’s not hard to understand it.
- rkachowski 7y ago
  Step 4 within the list is literally > 4. If you feel like there should be an easier way to achieve this, let Apple know using their Feedback[1] form. [1] https://www.apple.com/feedback/ https://www.apple.com/feedback/
twooclock 7y ago
Pardon me asking but since this setting is on the client, how one is sure that it is even considered/respected on the server?
- dfeojm-zlib 7y ago
  Without subpoenaing Apple, it seems like blind trust to me.
  - madez 7y ago
    If you have a working iPhone, Googles-Android based device or Windows computer around you, it is blind trust they don't surveil you, unless you permanently monitor and control their communications.
- egberts1 7y ago
  Wouldn’t one be able to verify this by placing your own MitM at your own home gateway, no?
  - thedanbob 7y ago
    The requests still have to go to Apple. The only way to verify if they’re logged or not would be to examine the servers themselves and the software running on them.
- floatingatoll 7y ago
  You cannot.
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dawnerd 7y ago
By disabling this are you hurting the ability for Siri to understand you better? Is there any negative impacts? Edit: Sorry for asking an important question. Blocking some of the Windows spy junk causes some issues with apps.
- floatingatoll 7y ago
  Yes, you are.
gregoryexe 7y ago
At Apple: "Ah, another request to not log anything, make sure you log everything."
taobility 7y ago
why don't you just disable Siri?
- PappaPatat 7y ago
  I for one, ALWAYS had Siri disabled, until some evil genius decided Siri MUST be on, in order for Apple Carplay to work.
metalliqaz 7y ago
Why isn't this just an option for users to enable in Settings?
- SwiftyBug 7y ago
  > If you feel like there should be an easier way to achieve this, let Apple know using their Feedback form¹ ¹https://www.apple.com/feedback/ https://www.apple.com/feedback/

81 points by chris-at 7y ago

dijit 7y ago

The .plist doesn’t appear malicious, but I wouldn’t ideally be installing random profiles like this from random places.

dfeojm-zlib 7y ago
How to make your own: https://www.idropnews.com/how-to/heres-how-to-stop-sharing-your-private-siri-interactions-with-apple/112990/ https://www.idropnews.com/how-to/heres-how-to-stop-sharing-y... It should look something like this (you'll have to remove a bunch of other unnecessary settings from the file to make it look list this): <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> <plist version="1.0"> <dict> <key>PayloadContent</key> <array> <dict> <key>PayloadDescription</key> <string>Configures restrictions</string> <key>PayloadDisplayName</key> <string>Restrictions</string> <key>PayloadIdentifier</key> <string>com.apple.applicationaccess.masked</string> <key>PayloadType</key> <string>com.apple.applicationaccess</string> <key>PayloadUUID</key> <string>masked</string> <key>PayloadVersion</key> <integer>1</integer> <key>allowSiriServerLogging</key> <false/> </dict> </array> <key>PayloadDisplayName</key> <string>Prevent Siri from Logging Me</string> <key>PayloadIdentifier</key> <string>masked</string> <key>PayloadRemovalDisallowed</key> <false/> <key>PayloadType</key> <string>Configuration</string> <key>PayloadUUID</key> <string>masked</string> <key>PayloadVersion</key> <integer>1</integer> </dict> </plist>
mikeash 7y ago
Seems fine. iOS tells you exactly what the profile does and it’s not hard to understand it.
rkachowski 7y ago
Step 4 within the list is literally > 4. If you feel like there should be an easier way to achieve this, let Apple know using their Feedback[1] form. [1] https://www.apple.com/feedback/ https://www.apple.com/feedback/

twooclock 7y ago

Pardon me asking but since this setting is on the client, how one is sure that it is even considered/respected on the server?

dfeojm-zlib 7y ago
Without subpoenaing Apple, it seems like blind trust to me.
- madez 7y ago
  If you have a working iPhone, Googles-Android based device or Windows computer around you, it is blind trust they don't surveil you, unless you permanently monitor and control their communications.
egberts1 7y ago
Wouldn’t one be able to verify this by placing your own MitM at your own home gateway, no?
- thedanbob 7y ago
  The requests still have to go to Apple. The only way to verify if they’re logged or not would be to examine the servers themselves and the software running on them.
floatingatoll 7y ago
You cannot.

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dawnerd 7y ago

By disabling this are you hurting the ability for Siri to understand you better? Is there any negative impacts? Edit: Sorry for asking an important question. Blocking some of the Windows spy junk causes some issues with apps.

floatingatoll 7y ago
Yes, you are.

gregoryexe 7y ago

At Apple: "Ah, another request to not log anything, make sure you log everything."

taobility 7y ago

why don't you just disable Siri?

PappaPatat 7y ago
I for one, ALWAYS had Siri disabled, until some evil genius decided Siri MUST be on, in order for Apple Carplay to work.

metalliqaz 7y ago

Why isn't this just an option for users to enable in Settings?

SwiftyBug 7y ago
> If you feel like there should be an easier way to achieve this, let Apple know using their Feedback form¹ ¹https://www.apple.com/feedback/ https://www.apple.com/feedback/