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Doesn't this have more to do with the fact that YouTube content is far more diverse with thousands of niches of varying sizes? YouTube's algorithmic recommendat

by unmole 7y ago

Doesn't this have more to do with the fact that YouTube content is far more diverse with thousands of niches of varying sizes? YouTube's algorithmic recommendations are terrible but TikTok's model if applied to YouTube would just make it completely useless. I don't want to be shown a video that's generally popular, I want to be shown a video that is related to my interests. Off Topic but from what little I saw, the content on TikTok is pure cancer.

citizenpaul 7y ago
>the content on TikTok is pure cancer. What's it like posting on HN when you are 80yo?
- DangitBobby 7y ago
  I hope this is satire
- cannonedhamster 7y ago
  This is a personal attack and against HN Guidelines which is why you're being downvoted. Specifically in comments guideline: Be kind. Don't be snarky. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.
cannonedhamster 7y ago
Your opinion of TikTok is most likely due to your personal lens. With a 60 second time limit though the app there's very little time for thoughtful commentary unless you make the video elsewhere and import it. It's closer to a meme generator than a video hosting site, which makes the loss of creators even more problematic. Creators are willing to jump through hoops for less YouTube issues. I know their contentID and copyright system is hopelessly broken and biased towards stealing from original content creators at the behest if established and larger publishers and this has been a real thorn in the side. Someone literally posted random white noise and it was claimed by multiple people automatically within seconds. That's a failure on YouTube's part that borders on facilitating cooyfraud. I'm surprised they haven't been sure over it yet. Here's a primer on tiktok for those unfamiliar: https://slate.com/technology/2018/09/tiktok-app-musically-guide.html https://slate.com/technology/2018/09/tiktok-app-musically-gu...
zrobotics 7y ago
Agreed:for all its faults, I can't see the Tiktok algorithm working for YouTube style content. For instance, I like watching long-form electronics & machining videos. I have no interest in gaming channels, but they are incredibly popular. And by the same token, most average people would be incredibly annoyed to get reccomended a video from 'thesignalpath'. That is understandable, but the diversity of content makes it so that YouTube can't just reccomend videos to everyone. I just hope that a place remains online for the weird niche stuff that is avaliable there, but Tiktok definitely isn't a place for that. It's fine for memes, but that's about it.
- orloffm 7y ago
  The idea is that their presumably clever AI/machine learning whatever should be able to show you some interesting video about game mechanics. But it's never the case, everyone sees very shallow selections.
throwaway-hn123 7y ago
> Off Topic but from what little I saw, the content on TikTok is pure cancer. Mate you're an indian cunt. Fuck off.
coldtea 7y ago
>Off Topic but from what little I saw, the content on TikTok is pure cancer. If by cancer you mean people having fun in ways you don't approve, then yes.
- 0xJRS 7y ago
  Thats no way to talk to the Thought Police
soperj 7y ago
No more cancerous than most youtube comments sections.
wpq0 7y ago
Haven't been on Tik Tok that long either, but I stumbled upon this story where a girl send a poor non-binary kid a box full of cosmetics. I found that pretty heart-warming. The point is it's a bit too quick to label a new medium pure cancer. Given time, people will find ways to create amazing things using any format.

by unmole 7y ago

citizenpaul 7y ago

>the content on TikTok is pure cancer. What's it like posting on HN when you are 80yo?

DangitBobby 7y ago
I hope this is satire
cannonedhamster 7y ago
This is a personal attack and against HN Guidelines which is why you're being downvoted. Specifically in comments guideline: Be kind. Don't be snarky. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

cannonedhamster 7y ago

Your opinion of TikTok is most likely due to your personal lens. With a 60 second time limit though the app there's very little time for thoughtful commentary unless you make the video elsewhere and import it. It's closer to a meme generator than a video hosting site, which makes the loss of creators even more problematic. Creators are willing to jump through hoops for less YouTube issues. I know their contentID and copyright system is hopelessly broken and biased towards stealing from original content creators at the behest if established and larger publishers and this has been a real thorn in the side. Someone literally posted random white noise and it was claimed by multiple people automatically within seconds. That's a failure on YouTube's part that borders on facilitating cooyfraud. I'm surprised they haven't been sure over it yet. Here's a primer on tiktok for those unfamiliar: https://slate.com/technology/2018/09/tiktok-app-musically-guide.html https://slate.com/technology/2018/09/tiktok-app-musically-gu...

zrobotics 7y ago

Agreed:for all its faults, I can't see the Tiktok algorithm working for YouTube style content. For instance, I like watching long-form electronics & machining videos. I have no interest in gaming channels, but they are incredibly popular. And by the same token, most average people would be incredibly annoyed to get reccomended a video from 'thesignalpath'. That is understandable, but the diversity of content makes it so that YouTube can't just reccomend videos to everyone. I just hope that a place remains online for the weird niche stuff that is avaliable there, but Tiktok definitely isn't a place for that. It's fine for memes, but that's about it.

orloffm 7y ago
The idea is that their presumably clever AI/machine learning whatever should be able to show you some interesting video about game mechanics. But it's never the case, everyone sees very shallow selections.

throwaway-hn123 7y ago

> Off Topic but from what little I saw, the content on TikTok is pure cancer. Mate you're an indian cunt. Fuck off.

coldtea 7y ago

>Off Topic but from what little I saw, the content on TikTok is pure cancer. If by cancer you mean people having fun in ways you don't approve, then yes.

0xJRS 7y ago
Thats no way to talk to the Thought Police

soperj 7y ago

No more cancerous than most youtube comments sections.

wpq0 7y ago

Haven't been on Tik Tok that long either, but I stumbled upon this story where a girl send a poor non-binary kid a box full of cosmetics. I found that pretty heart-warming. The point is it's a bit too quick to label a new medium pure cancer. Given time, people will find ways to create amazing things using any format.