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Firing all your QA engineers because you can make your developers do QA is like firing all your operations people because you can make your developers do operat

• MaxBarraclough 7y ago
  > like cutting off your left arm because you still have your right arm This ignores that it discards specialisation, not merely quantity, and that testers are generally cheaper than developers.
  • solstice 7y ago
    Re: specialization. Most people aren't ambidextrous afaik and will have a hard time retraining to do things with another hand. So I think the metaphor still holds
• mixmastamyk 7y ago
  It's like firing all your nurses and having expensive doctors work overtime. In other words, silly.
  • Spooky23 7y ago
    ...and short term lucrative. Long term, doctors aren’t nurses and patients suffer. Eventually someone dies.
  • LilBytes 7y ago
    This is such a perfect analogy for where I feel DevOps fails in some implementations. My experience is across three different companies now, and in the first two (not my current employer who... still do it wrong but it's the best I've seen), they fired the Ops guys and expected the Systems Engineers\Software Engineers to take those roles. No overtime pay in either company for the extra work load that was placed on them (e.g. me) of course. So the only cost the companies incurred was productivity and the quality of work. The burden was entirely carried by the staff and to a greater degree the clients who accept a shoddier product and service. Fortunately I quit both jobs to get to where I am now, though the old timers no doubt are still working ridiculous hours and are too scared to ask them selves "can I find better else where?".