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It's not fair that software developers never get a chance to lay back and enjoy the long term payoffs of the fruits of their labor, it's like the slaves who toi

by maeon3 16y ago

It's not fair that software developers never get a chance to lay back and enjoy the long term payoffs of the fruits of their labor, it's like the slaves who toil endlessly to plant the crops then the moment the time of payback comes, they only get a small portion, and in order to survive the slaves must find other work asap or else they will starve. It takes us massive amounts of effort to build something that makes money, and the moment we finish it, we are fired and other people sit back and enjoy the long term profits. Something has to be done about this. Software I wrote many years ago is generating massive profits for OTHER PEOPLE. Yet here I am not seeing a cent of that. We still only get paid a "salary" because that is the going wage, regardless of if our software earns 10 million dollars. ITS NOT FAIR I SAY.

ebaysucks 16y ago
If you are convinced the buyers of your labor make surplus profits, why do you keep on selling said labor?
- maeon3 16y ago
  Because I don't have much money left my bank. If I don't work for someone, I won't eat. I know the solution is to capitalize on the unfairness and make things unfair in my favor by starting my own company, hiring some programmers, have them build something that makes money, hire other people to sell it, then pay them a tiny fraction of what I bring in. But that takes risk. I want big money with no risk.
  - ebaysucks 16y ago
    "I want big money with no risk." Not going to happen. You should consider moonlighting.
  - mindcrime 16y ago
    I want big money with no risk. And I want Natalie Portman, Elisabeth Shue and Olivia Wilde to show up at my door, naked and bearing hot grits... but that ain't gonna happen either. Life doesn't always give you what you want. Tough, huh?
klbarry 16y ago
This is the same argument given by workers of every kind for hundreds of years - "the capitalists get rich off the fruit of our labors and the sweat of our brows, and don't toil to earn their own money" Whether it is right or wrong I can't say.
endtime 16y ago
It's not about whether the code you wrote is what runs to generate the money, it's about how unique and valuable your skills were. Could another programmer have done pretty much what you did? Or did you bring some unique insight/design/engineering wizardry to the table? If your answers are [yes, no] then it should be obvious why you get paid a salary. Only if your answers are [no, yes] is your complaint valid...and in that case you should start your own company.

by maeon3 16y ago

ebaysucks 16y ago

If you are convinced the buyers of your labor make surplus profits, why do you keep on selling said labor?

maeon3 16y ago
Because I don't have much money left my bank. If I don't work for someone, I won't eat. I know the solution is to capitalize on the unfairness and make things unfair in my favor by starting my own company, hiring some programmers, have them build something that makes money, hire other people to sell it, then pay them a tiny fraction of what I bring in. But that takes risk. I want big money with no risk.
- ebaysucks 16y ago
  "I want big money with no risk." Not going to happen. You should consider moonlighting.
- mindcrime 16y ago
  I want big money with no risk. And I want Natalie Portman, Elisabeth Shue and Olivia Wilde to show up at my door, naked and bearing hot grits... but that ain't gonna happen either. Life doesn't always give you what you want. Tough, huh?

klbarry 16y ago

This is the same argument given by workers of every kind for hundreds of years - "the capitalists get rich off the fruit of our labors and the sweat of our brows, and don't toil to earn their own money" Whether it is right or wrong I can't say.

endtime 16y ago

It's not about whether the code you wrote is what runs to generate the money, it's about how unique and valuable your skills were. Could another programmer have done pretty much what you did? Or did you bring some unique insight/design/engineering wizardry to the table? If your answers are [yes, no] then it should be obvious why you get paid a salary. Only if your answers are [no, yes] is your complaint valid...and in that case you should start your own company.