> All of these are examples where you're using two terms that both impose conditions, rather than removing them. All of these? Really? "Fractional" and "real"

> All of these are examples where you're using two terms that both impose conditions, rather than removing them. All of these? Really? "Fractional" and "real" are 'imposing' conditions on 'number' rather than removing them? Like you said, I'd bet you that 'number' first meant 'natural number' rather than 'complex number'. And before you tell me how deletion is also commutative just like addition—I could debate you the merits of that in natural language too, but that's beside my point in the last paragraph. > Does it? I've never heard it called that. Yes? That's precisely why I just gave you 2 links to people calling it exactly that above!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_ordering#Total_preorders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_ordering#Total_preorders http://fitelson.org/roberts_measurement_theory.pdf#page=56 http://fitelson.org/roberts_measurement_theory.pdf#page=56 And I already asked you how you think a mathematician who unlike you knows 'weak' already has a definition this context would interpret 'weak total order' to mean? and you just ignored me there too. Just like you ignored my links way above where I showed you this is known terminology you're merely not aware of. I don't know why you're not cooperating but I'm tired of continuing.