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According to the graph, the 45-54 age group has the highest suicide rate. I'd have never expected that.

by pkaye 7y ago

Animats 7y ago
That's when people realize they've failed at life, their bodies are giving out, and they can't afford to retire. High opiate abuse, too.
- that_jojo 7y ago
  Really doesn't help that we've somehow created a culture where mediocrity is a sin. It's okay to be average. Most of us are.
  - point78 7y ago
    This I really hate. People make fun of participation awards but that's what it's all about...you tried, you participated...Ok that's fantastic. Pressure that if you're not worth 7 figures or famous is poisonous...
- pkaye 7y ago
  Then why is the 55-74 range lower?
  - cptskippy 7y ago
    I would say the curre6 55-74 range is baby boomers who benefitted from strong growth in wages, stocks, benefits, and housing and are financially secure. Where as the 45-54 group is the first of Gen X that didn't have those benefits and are in a much worse state financially for the future. I guess the question I have is how have suicide rates changed over the past century.
    - asark 7y ago
      I'd guess retirements (in the US, at least) are gonna get a hell of a lot less comfortable, on average, as the years go on. And probably suicides will keep going up as a result. I'm an early (the term I sometimes see is elder) millennial with excellent household income for my area, but if I ever retire it'll either be on a meager income or very late, because I had kids. Took me from probably a comfortable, but not extravagant, early retirement or a pretty good "normal"-timed retirement to maybe-never retirement. Those with lower income (so, most) aren't even getting that choice. Kids and lifelong near-poverty and debt struggles, or maybe, maybe a so-so retirement more or less on time, but no kids.
    - pkaye 7y ago
      Some statistics here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States Generally trending upwards after 2000. Interestingly when split by race, Black, Asian and Hispanics are at a much lower rate than White and American Indian. I know in Asian and Hispanics (and probably Black) households it is common for multiple generations to live and take care of each other.
      - cptskippy 7y ago
        In a way that makes, people in lower incomes generally have more of a reliance on one another. Financial independence often means independence and people who are independent often struggle with asking for help.
  - DanBC 7y ago
    Because there's hugely more of them, and they die of heart attacks and RTAs as well as killing themselves. https://imgur.com/a/iktpfjS https://imgur.com/a/iktpfjS
bityard 7y ago
Men aged 50 and up are loneliest group as well.
- deleted 7y ago
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cptskippy 7y ago
Why? After 40 your body starts to decline and your mortality stares you in the face. If you aren't already running a successful business or an executive then your career is either stalling or in decline. If you haven't been planning for retirement then you're running out of options. 45-54 seems like the age group that's burdened most with their future and the consequences of their life choices catching up to them.
- asark 7y ago
  Wonder if there's a spike in giant, probably-indefinitely-recurring medical bills right around that time.
- nvarsj 7y ago
  > the consequences of their life choices catching up to them That's a bit harsh. If you are a post baby boomer, you're in the minority if you think you can retire comfortably. I frankly don't see how the majority of gen-x/millennials can retire - except to not have kids and save >50% of our salary, and pray the stock market doesn't blow up.
  - cptskippy 7y ago
    A absolutely agree with you and I'm a little confused as to why I said it like that. I'm old enough to have been part of the generation that was taught you'd be successful in life and be able to retire in comfort if you did what society expected of you, and I'm young enough to see that was a lie.
DanBC 7y ago
It's also a larger number of people because it's a larger population: https://imgur.com/a/iktpfjS https://imgur.com/a/iktpfjS

According to the graph, the 45-54 age group has the highest suicide rate. I'd have never expected that.

by pkaye 7y ago

According to the graph, the 45-54 age group has the highest suicide rate. I'd have never expected that.

That's when people realize they've failed at life, their bodies are giving out, and they can't afford to retire. High opiate abuse, too.

that_jojo 7y ago
Really doesn't help that we've somehow created a culture where mediocrity is a sin. It's okay to be average. Most of us are.
- point78 7y ago
  This I really hate. People make fun of participation awards but that's what it's all about...you tried, you participated...Ok that's fantastic. Pressure that if you're not worth 7 figures or famous is poisonous...
pkaye 7y ago
Then why is the 55-74 range lower?
- cptskippy 7y ago
  I would say the curre6 55-74 range is baby boomers who benefitted from strong growth in wages, stocks, benefits, and housing and are financially secure. Where as the 45-54 group is the first of Gen X that didn't have those benefits and are in a much worse state financially for the future. I guess the question I have is how have suicide rates changed over the past century.
  - asark 7y ago
    I'd guess retirements (in the US, at least) are gonna get a hell of a lot less comfortable, on average, as the years go on. And probably suicides will keep going up as a result. I'm an early (the term I sometimes see is elder) millennial with excellent household income for my area, but if I ever retire it'll either be on a meager income or very late, because I had kids. Took me from probably a comfortable, but not extravagant, early retirement or a pretty good "normal"-timed retirement to maybe-never retirement. Those with lower income (so, most) aren't even getting that choice. Kids and lifelong near-poverty and debt struggles, or maybe, maybe a so-so retirement more or less on time, but no kids.
  - pkaye 7y ago
    Some statistics here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States Generally trending upwards after 2000. Interestingly when split by race, Black, Asian and Hispanics are at a much lower rate than White and American Indian. I know in Asian and Hispanics (and probably Black) households it is common for multiple generations to live and take care of each other.
    - cptskippy 7y ago
      In a way that makes, people in lower incomes generally have more of a reliance on one another. Financial independence often means independence and people who are independent often struggle with asking for help.
- DanBC 7y ago
  Because there's hugely more of them, and they die of heart attacks and RTAs as well as killing themselves. https://imgur.com/a/iktpfjS https://imgur.com/a/iktpfjS

bityard 7y ago

Men aged 50 and up are loneliest group as well.

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cptskippy 7y ago

Why? After 40 your body starts to decline and your mortality stares you in the face. If you aren't already running a successful business or an executive then your career is either stalling or in decline. If you haven't been planning for retirement then you're running out of options. 45-54 seems like the age group that's burdened most with their future and the consequences of their life choices catching up to them.

asark 7y ago
Wonder if there's a spike in giant, probably-indefinitely-recurring medical bills right around that time.
nvarsj 7y ago
> the consequences of their life choices catching up to them That's a bit harsh. If you are a post baby boomer, you're in the minority if you think you can retire comfortably. I frankly don't see how the majority of gen-x/millennials can retire - except to not have kids and save >50% of our salary, and pray the stock market doesn't blow up.
- cptskippy 7y ago
  A absolutely agree with you and I'm a little confused as to why I said it like that. I'm old enough to have been part of the generation that was taught you'd be successful in life and be able to retire in comfort if you did what society expected of you, and I'm young enough to see that was a lie.

DanBC 7y ago

It's also a larger number of people because it's a larger population: https://imgur.com/a/iktpfjS https://imgur.com/a/iktpfjS