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That was my motivation as well when I prepurchased the phone. Even though you might not get a $600 phone, Purism and the entire Linux community gain a lot of ex

That was my motivation as well when I prepurchased the phone. Even though you might not get a $600 phone, Purism and the entire Linux community gain a lot of experience about the difficulties of designing hand-held hardware, applications and operating systems. In my opinion their progress has been fantastic, and I am quite excited for the future of Linux smartphones.

TylerE 7y ago
It isn't close to a $600 phone. The $180 Nokia 4.1 has near identical specs....except it has an 8 core, 2ghz CPU and not a 4 core, 1.5ghz cpu You can actually get under $100 if you compromise the specs just a little.
- sverige 7y ago
  How much does it cost to keep everyone who wants to from gathering your personal data from that $100 phone, though?
  - joenathanone 7y ago
    Free if you know how to use ADB and Fastboot.
    - voltagex_ 7y ago
      So I checked, and there are no "official" current LineageOS builds for any Nokia phones (unless I'm missing something on https://download.lineageos.org https://download.lineageos.org) There don't seem to be any builds anywhere for the 4.1 (is it an uncommon phone?) For argument's sake, let's say you bought the 6.1, now your option is to download an "unofficial" ROM from some pseudo-anonymous person with an anime avatar from XDA, hosted on whatever free file hosting they can find today. Don't get me wrong, I used Lineage when it was called Cyanogenmod, and it saved one phone from landfill which is great. But I'm older now, and I need my phone to work and work well - I really don't have time for problems like https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?s=76595163ac856ff689bfa6cfcac15e4e&p=78883626&postcount=7 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?s=76595163ac85.... For some people, that's worth the money. Edit: here's all the proprietary blobs that'd need to be reversed to be audited to make sure they're not selling you out, too - https://github.com/nokia-dev/proprietary_vendor_nokia/tree/android-9.0/sdm660-common/proprietary/lib64 https://github.com/nokia-dev/proprietary_vendor_nokia/tree/a.... Props to HMD for publishing them, though.
      - bscphil 7y ago
        Similarly, I've pretty much given up on LineageOS ever getting the Nexus 5X to the 16.0 version. Their list of supported phones looks decent, but when you realize they can't keep even those phones up to date the project starts to look like a failure. I'm hoping to find an alternative for friends and family who still have the 5X - it's been dropped from Google's security updates for a while, because their support ends abysmally quickly.
        voltagex_ 7y ago
        You hit the 5X jackpot - up to a certain manufacturing date, those phones were notorious for bootlooping and never working again. More on topic, the LineageOS support requires a volunteer maintaining a buildable tree for the phone, and testing will require the hardware itself. I'm not sure how much CI/CD helps here.
        bscphil 7y ago
        You're right: of the four 5X phones owned by close friends or family, only 1 bootlooped (and one was stolen). It would be great to have continued support for the remaining phones, but planned obsolescence is too strong. The Nexus 5X supposedly has a maintainer with LineageOS, but maybe they're busy or no longer own the phone.
        tapia 7y ago
        Maybe try Ubuntu phone? [1] It is an officially supported device of UBports. [1] https://ubports.com/de_DE/devices/promoted-devices https://ubports.com/de_DE/devices/promoted-devices
        bscphil 7y ago
        Unfortunately, I believe the supported phone is the Nexus 5. The 5X is not a different version of the 5, it's the next generation of the smallest Nexus phone line, since the "6" was already taken. The numbering went Nexus 4, 5, 5X.
    - willtim 7y ago
      My time is not free

TylerE 7y ago

It isn't close to a $600 phone. The $180 Nokia 4.1 has near identical specs....except it has an 8 core, 2ghz CPU and not a 4 core, 1.5ghz cpu You can actually get under $100 if you compromise the specs just a little.

sverige 7y ago
How much does it cost to keep everyone who wants to from gathering your personal data from that $100 phone, though?
- joenathanone 7y ago
  Free if you know how to use ADB and Fastboot.
  - voltagex_ 7y ago
    So I checked, and there are no "official" current LineageOS builds for any Nokia phones (unless I'm missing something on https://download.lineageos.org https://download.lineageos.org) There don't seem to be any builds anywhere for the 4.1 (is it an uncommon phone?) For argument's sake, let's say you bought the 6.1, now your option is to download an "unofficial" ROM from some pseudo-anonymous person with an anime avatar from XDA, hosted on whatever free file hosting they can find today. Don't get me wrong, I used Lineage when it was called Cyanogenmod, and it saved one phone from landfill which is great. But I'm older now, and I need my phone to work and work well - I really don't have time for problems like https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?s=76595163ac856ff689bfa6cfcac15e4e&p=78883626&postcount=7 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?s=76595163ac85.... For some people, that's worth the money. Edit: here's all the proprietary blobs that'd need to be reversed to be audited to make sure they're not selling you out, too - https://github.com/nokia-dev/proprietary_vendor_nokia/tree/android-9.0/sdm660-common/proprietary/lib64 https://github.com/nokia-dev/proprietary_vendor_nokia/tree/a.... Props to HMD for publishing them, though.
    - bscphil 7y ago
      Similarly, I've pretty much given up on LineageOS ever getting the Nexus 5X to the 16.0 version. Their list of supported phones looks decent, but when you realize they can't keep even those phones up to date the project starts to look like a failure. I'm hoping to find an alternative for friends and family who still have the 5X - it's been dropped from Google's security updates for a while, because their support ends abysmally quickly.
      - voltagex_ 7y ago
        You hit the 5X jackpot - up to a certain manufacturing date, those phones were notorious for bootlooping and never working again. More on topic, the LineageOS support requires a volunteer maintaining a buildable tree for the phone, and testing will require the hardware itself. I'm not sure how much CI/CD helps here.
        bscphil 7y ago
        You're right: of the four 5X phones owned by close friends or family, only 1 bootlooped (and one was stolen). It would be great to have continued support for the remaining phones, but planned obsolescence is too strong. The Nexus 5X supposedly has a maintainer with LineageOS, but maybe they're busy or no longer own the phone.
      - tapia 7y ago
        Maybe try Ubuntu phone? [1] It is an officially supported device of UBports. [1] https://ubports.com/de_DE/devices/promoted-devices https://ubports.com/de_DE/devices/promoted-devices
        bscphil 7y ago
        Unfortunately, I believe the supported phone is the Nexus 5. The 5X is not a different version of the 5, it's the next generation of the smallest Nexus phone line, since the "6" was already taken. The numbering went Nexus 4, 5, 5X.
  - willtim 7y ago
    My time is not free