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I own so many copies of DOOM from the original release in the early 90s to practically every digital storefront out there - but the Switch was the first platfor

by geddy 7y ago

I own so many copies of DOOM from the original release in the early 90s to practically every digital storefront out there - but the Switch was the first platform I had where I can play it portably. I ragequit and requested a refund upon seeing the forced login screen though. Nintendo actually came through and I received my $5 back yesterday. Couldn't believe it actually worked. And now begins my eternal boycott of Bethesda. Can't support this kind of shit.

shmerl 7y ago
See my comment above: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20556802 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20556802 I.e. why would you expect already heavily DRMed platform not to add more DRM? If that is a concern, use DRM-free one to begin with.
- geddy 7y ago
  The platform you speak of did not add more DRM - the third-party (Bethesda) that developed the software did. I accept Nintendo's DRM because every single console ever within recent times has some form of DRM, be it hardware or software-based. I play games while on the go and lugging around a gaming PC and only playing GOG games is a little unfeasible, don't you think? Also, the bus driver gets pretty upset when I ask for a plug for my monitor and desktop.
  - shmerl 7y ago
    Find consoles that allow DRM-free gaming, I posted one example in this thread. Otherwise I don't see it as consistent, when you are excusing one (Nintendo) and blaming another (Bethesda).
    - geddy 7y ago
      Well, to put it bluntly: I don't need to be consistent. I only want to play my physical Switch games on my Switch. I don't expect to be able to back them up. The fact that it's copy-protected and locked down and all that doesn't change my mind. I should, within reasonable limits (the cartridge being stolen by silverback apes, the Switch cartridge port going bad, etc), be able to play my Switch physical games indefinitely, and for that, I am fine with the DRM implemented on the Switch and my entire collection of handheld devices which have similar policies. DRM that requires verification to a central server is guaranteed to not function in a few years, and that kind of DRM I am not OK with. Those game will die soon, and tons of games die every year. See these videos for info on them: https://www.accursedfarms.com/videos/dead-game-news https://www.accursedfarms.com/videos/dead-game-news I find it interesting that when someone points out something they do not care for, they have to 100% reject everything under that umbrella in a weird "zero-tolerance policy". I have no clue why, according to every discussion on the Internet, I cannot, for example, dislike sports cars, but think that the Bugatti Veyron is pretty cool. Not everything has to be 0 or 1. Then again this is hacker news so maybe it's the inner engineer in us all.
      - shmerl 7y ago
        Here it's is about DRM, so if you tolerate one (from Nintendo), another (Bethesda) has an excuse to push on you more. Only demanding DRM-free is consistent in this regard. I.e. my personal view - vote with your wallet and don't use Switch, if the issue of DRM bothers you. Not sure what else users can practically do about it. Otherwise, I don't see this improving really.

by geddy 7y ago

shmerl 7y ago

See my comment above: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20556802 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20556802 I.e. why would you expect already heavily DRMed platform not to add more DRM? If that is a concern, use DRM-free one to begin with.

geddy 7y ago
The platform you speak of did not add more DRM - the third-party (Bethesda) that developed the software did. I accept Nintendo's DRM because every single console ever within recent times has some form of DRM, be it hardware or software-based. I play games while on the go and lugging around a gaming PC and only playing GOG games is a little unfeasible, don't you think? Also, the bus driver gets pretty upset when I ask for a plug for my monitor and desktop.
- shmerl 7y ago
  Find consoles that allow DRM-free gaming, I posted one example in this thread. Otherwise I don't see it as consistent, when you are excusing one (Nintendo) and blaming another (Bethesda).
  - geddy 7y ago
    Well, to put it bluntly: I don't need to be consistent. I only want to play my physical Switch games on my Switch. I don't expect to be able to back them up. The fact that it's copy-protected and locked down and all that doesn't change my mind. I should, within reasonable limits (the cartridge being stolen by silverback apes, the Switch cartridge port going bad, etc), be able to play my Switch physical games indefinitely, and for that, I am fine with the DRM implemented on the Switch and my entire collection of handheld devices which have similar policies. DRM that requires verification to a central server is guaranteed to not function in a few years, and that kind of DRM I am not OK with. Those game will die soon, and tons of games die every year. See these videos for info on them: https://www.accursedfarms.com/videos/dead-game-news https://www.accursedfarms.com/videos/dead-game-news I find it interesting that when someone points out something they do not care for, they have to 100% reject everything under that umbrella in a weird "zero-tolerance policy". I have no clue why, according to every discussion on the Internet, I cannot, for example, dislike sports cars, but think that the Bugatti Veyron is pretty cool. Not everything has to be 0 or 1. Then again this is hacker news so maybe it's the inner engineer in us all.
    - shmerl 7y ago
      Here it's is about DRM, so if you tolerate one (from Nintendo), another (Bethesda) has an excuse to push on you more. Only demanding DRM-free is consistent in this regard. I.e. my personal view - vote with your wallet and don't use Switch, if the issue of DRM bothers you. Not sure what else users can practically do about it. Otherwise, I don't see this improving really.