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25 lbs of paperwork to register an online school? Sounds less about protecting students and more towards protecting incumbents and cronies.
by merpnderp 7y ago
25 lbs of paperwork to register an online school? Sounds less about protecting students and more towards protecting incumbents and cronies.
- austenallred 7y agoThe real fun ones are where we have to submit the curriculum for approval every time we make a change (considering we make small tweaks to curriculum every day - they did not plan for that use case). Good thing there are APIs for printing and mailing changes to a diff :)
- marcoperaza 7y agoI wonder if there’s a First Amendment claim there.
- pkaye 7y agoHow long does it take to get the approval back? I bet they don't even read the list of changes.
- austenallred 7y agoThe first draft they send highlighted grammar errors with a red pencil. After that I'm sure it's just stacking up somewhere. It's a waste for sure, but changing the system is a long process.
- pkaye 7y agoWhat I've learned is to always include a few token spelling and grammar errors in the first draft of anything so reviewers feel like they have done their job. /s
- cheez 7y agoThis is actually a good idea. No /s needed.
- nosuchuser2 7y agoThis but unironically
- teddyh 7y agoSee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality
- berbec 7y agoI used to run a pizzaria and the health inspector would stick around for ages, because he couldn't find anything to site me for. I combed through the specs and found something to keep him happy. It turns out to be a minor NY health code violation to store clothing on the same storage unit as food. So I attached a coat rack to the shelf that held sealed canned good. Problem solved.
- appcloud 7y agoCurious, what kind of changes are you making to the curriculum every day that would require you to submit them to the state for approval?
- the-alchemist 7y agoI've been following Lambda School and yourself on Twitter for a while now, and even looked at some resumes for our company. I have to say, thank you for your thoughtful comments here and on Twitter, and your dedication to students. As a former teacher myself, I know the work is hard. I only wish there was a Lambda School here in Philadelphia so I could teach here. :)
- austenallred 7y agoAll of our instructors are remote, apply!
- the-alchemist 7y agoOh, I didn't know you were still hiring instructors, thanks!
- zacharycohn 7y agoOr, it serves as an appropriate barrier to prevent people from scamming prospective students out of huge sums of money.
- dlhavema 7y agoYou need a happy medium here. You don't want to allow scammers of course, but also don't want to overly protect the incumbents so no one else can disrupt the space.
- 4ntonius8lock 7y agoThe happy medium is the have enforcement mechanisms of the tends of thousands of existing regulations that would put a scam business out of existence if a DA choose to. The fact of the matter is that to protect people... you need to have a system where ordinary people can complain, and companies get taken to task. 99% of preventative/reporting regulation is just cronyism.
- merpnderp 7y agoWe may wish regulations were for a different reason, but this is certainly their most common use case.
- anonymous5133 7y agoCouldn't that be dealt with in a private court?
- jacquesm 7y agoSure: https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/trump-university-settlement-finalized-trnd/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics/trump-university...
- jstanley 7y agoExcept, it doesn't, because if you're scamming people out of huge sums of money you don't give a shit if you're registered with the regulators.
- QuadmasterXLII 7y agoWhen the government makes you waste a a day filling out paperwork to prove that your dog food doesn’t contain human remains, don’t blame the regulators. Blame the guy before you who made a buck by vertically integrating his cannery and his morgue.
- aeorgnoieang 7y agoNah, blame the regulators too for thinking that filling out paperwork is likely to meaningfully dissuade someone from using human remains to make dog food. It was probably sufficient to explain to that one guy why that was bad.
- freehunter 7y ago>It was probably sufficient to explain to that one guy why that was bad. Greed doesn't listen to reason.
- icelancer 7y ago....nor regulators.
- erobbins 7y agoWith a functional government, regulations enable the regulators to punish people who do these things.
- merpnderp 7y agoSince we're talking about human remains in dog food, there's already likely a litany of felonies involved in turning a person into dog food. The regulators just like to regulate.
- dymk 7y ago> there's already likely a litany of felonies involved in turning a person into dog food yes, it's a felony because of regulation, made by... regulators
- wnevets 7y agoWith scams like trump university out there are we really complaining about some paperwork? If a school isn't capable of handling that paperwork, perhaps they shouldn't be school.
- merpnderp 7y agoI live in a place where the city council has all sorts of leeway on how to apply restaurant regulations when a new business wants to open. And just as you might expect, those who don't have city connections get a lot stricter enforcement of those regulations. Maybe if the US was more Nordic in its government corruption, I'd be more pro-regulation, but I see them abused all the time to keep the insiders rich and the outsiders poor, and the public unprotected.
- jcims 7y agoIs there any upper limit to the amount of paperwork you feel is appropriate to protect from 'trump university' copycats?
- digitaltrees 7y agoHave you ever tried to draft regulation? Even tried to capture everything that could possibly go wrong or be harmful, even unexpectedly and inadvertently? All while knowing that everything you forget will be a “loophole” for the thousands or millions of people coming under the regulations you drafted in the future. And worse if you leave loopholes people will be hurt and then blame the very government trying to create protections in the first place? It’s easy to throw stones at the work of someone else, but this completely emerges to withstand a barrage of stones being thrown.
- BurningFrog 7y agoRight. The rational way to write regulations is to ban everything. Which to me shows that "the regulatory state" is not the right model.
- digitaltrees 7y agoAt what point did I say that? I merely said it’s hard to craft legislation that gets the balance right. There will always be a regulatory state, the question is what is the authority that imposes the regulation; is it a democratic government, a private company that institutes policy and terms of service, a gang that rules by force and violence. No society I know of has existed without a code of rules and obligations, and America is actually really amazingly effective.
- oneplane 7y agoIt's mostly due to common law, which has some imperfections like progressively growing legal bases instead of pre-definitions.
- tomohawk 7y agoGovernment measures quality by weighing the paperwork. That registration must have added immeasurably to the quality of the offering.