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Nuts that the state has the right to block this kind of thing. What foolishness is that?

by baggy_trough 7y ago

joelhaasnoot 7y ago
Trump University anyone? I mean, the space is ripe for misleading (vulnerable) people.
- anonymous5133 7y ago
  As far as i know TU wasn't a scam. It was simply a real estate focused program.
  - joelhaasnoot 7y ago
    It was settled for $25 million, so we'll never really know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University#Allegations_of_impropriety_and_lawsuits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University#Allegations_o...
    - sfthrower89 7y ago
      All we'll really know is that Trump bragged a great deal about how good of a deal he got on the settlement.
_Microft 7y ago
Basically that's Quality Assurance. While Lambda School might be doing good by having the right incentives for all involved parties, a lot of money could be made by tricking people to enroll into questionable schools. So it's for the public good to regulate that market. The question is rather why Lamda School didn't get themselves approved?
- moate 7y ago
  Answered elsewhere in thread: Their legal counsel said they didn't need to. The lawyer was wrong, and they now have new legal counsel. Seems like a legit oops which they're since fixed.
  - _Microft 7y ago
    Thanks! I must have missed that by a few seconds.
  - freetobesmart 7y ago
    lip service. Im not buying it. Maybe they went to their legal counsel and said. "How do we do this cheaply, how do we get around approval?" In either case, you have an education company, educating in the tech field making a technical mistake. Not good. Whats the quick fix. Lawyers fault , we got new lawyers. 1) Is there no legal recourse for being lied to by your lawyer? 2) How do they know they hired the right lawyer now? Did they go cheap the first time? Dont do the same mistake Lambda school did, dont go cheap with your future. Get a real solid education from an accredited institution. Just dont go into too much debt.
    - moate 7y ago
      I mean that's your call my dude. Hanlon's razor, story checks out to me. I'm fine with the "official" story.
LargeWu 7y ago
There have been plenty of instances of private, for-profit schools that operate in a predatory manner. States have a legitimate interest in regulating potentially predatory behavior. So-called code bootcamps are not special in this regard.
moate 7y ago
Same reason you can't just go out and buy a car with your own damn money and legally drive it without a license. It's in the public interest that certain groups meet certain requirements in order to perform certain tasks. There's plenty of problems that come out of this, but generally people who support it think it's better than no regulation at all.
duxup 7y ago
Private schools that don't operate in the student's best interests pretty quickly can be a larger economic problem for everyone. These schools can be expensive and having a bunch of folks who want to do the work to move up getting ripped off is not in society's best interest.
- barry-cotter 7y ago
  You could have omitted the “private” and it would still be just as true.

Nuts that the state has the right to block this kind of thing. What foolishness is that?

joelhaasnoot 7y ago

Trump University anyone? I mean, the space is ripe for misleading (vulnerable) people.

anonymous5133 7y ago
As far as i know TU wasn't a scam. It was simply a real estate focused program.
- joelhaasnoot 7y ago
  It was settled for $25 million, so we'll never really know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University#Allegations_of_impropriety_and_lawsuits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University#Allegations_o...
  - sfthrower89 7y ago
    All we'll really know is that Trump bragged a great deal about how good of a deal he got on the settlement.

_Microft 7y ago

Basically that's Quality Assurance. While Lambda School might be doing good by having the right incentives for all involved parties, a lot of money could be made by tricking people to enroll into questionable schools. So it's for the public good to regulate that market. The question is rather why Lamda School didn't get themselves approved?

moate 7y ago
Answered elsewhere in thread: Their legal counsel said they didn't need to. The lawyer was wrong, and they now have new legal counsel. Seems like a legit oops which they're since fixed.
- _Microft 7y ago
  Thanks! I must have missed that by a few seconds.
- freetobesmart 7y ago
  lip service. Im not buying it. Maybe they went to their legal counsel and said. "How do we do this cheaply, how do we get around approval?" In either case, you have an education company, educating in the tech field making a technical mistake. Not good. Whats the quick fix. Lawyers fault , we got new lawyers. 1) Is there no legal recourse for being lied to by your lawyer? 2) How do they know they hired the right lawyer now? Did they go cheap the first time? Dont do the same mistake Lambda school did, dont go cheap with your future. Get a real solid education from an accredited institution. Just dont go into too much debt.
  - moate 7y ago
    I mean that's your call my dude. Hanlon's razor, story checks out to me. I'm fine with the "official" story.

LargeWu 7y ago

There have been plenty of instances of private, for-profit schools that operate in a predatory manner. States have a legitimate interest in regulating potentially predatory behavior. So-called code bootcamps are not special in this regard.

moate 7y ago

Same reason you can't just go out and buy a car with your own damn money and legally drive it without a license. It's in the public interest that certain groups meet certain requirements in order to perform certain tasks. There's plenty of problems that come out of this, but generally people who support it think it's better than no regulation at all.

duxup 7y ago

Private schools that don't operate in the student's best interests pretty quickly can be a larger economic problem for everyone. These schools can be expensive and having a bunch of folks who want to do the work to move up getting ripped off is not in society's best interest.

barry-cotter 7y ago
You could have omitted the “private” and it would still be just as true.