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This is what made interviewing at Apple so exciting recently. I didn't get this particular job (and plan to apply again), but the adrenaline rush from realizing

by Bud 16y ago

This is what made interviewing at Apple so exciting recently. I didn't get this particular job (and plan to apply again), but the adrenaline rush from realizing that all the folks interviewing me were extremely bright, talented, motivated, and into their jobs was instantly addictive. It's very easy to understand why Apple works and how it keeps its people motivated.

dtby 16y ago
Nothing personal, but you are highly confused about the real world. You will not be employee #10 at Apple and they will not value contributions as wanting to make a difference. It's nice to think they will, but I so long as I have direct line to someone who thinks it's "different," I feel the need to tell you it's not.
- Bud 16y ago
  I've held about 10 jobs in Silicon Valley. I can tell you, the environment at Apple was rather different, and my friends who work there paint a picture of their employment there that is indeed quite different from many other stories I've heard, and jobs I've held.
  - trotsky 16y ago
    Is it the fear, the secrecy or the interrogations that stand out the most? http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/steve-wozniak-spills-the-beans-on-apples-fear-culture-20100426/ http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/steve-wozniak-spills-the-...
    - ugh 16y ago
      Fear and interrogations? What’s your evidence for that? The “fear” in the headline of the article is shameless editorialization, the author of the article and his source make no further references to fear or interrogations.
      - trotsky 16y ago
        http://gizmodo.com/5427058/apple-gestapo-how-apple-hunts-down-leaks http://gizmodo.com/5427058/apple-gestapo-how-apple-hunts-dow... http://gizmodo.com/5319275/report-iphone-leak-interrogations-drive-foxconn-employee-to-suicide http://gizmodo.com/5319275/report-iphone-leak-interrogations...
        wooster 16y ago
        FWIW, the "Apple Gestapo" article is almost entirely fabricated nonsense.
        brianpan 16y ago
        Gizmodo is not exactly an unbiased reporter of Apple news.
    - Bud 16y ago
      Your comments are extremely unimpressive. Comparing Apple to the Gestapo because they have a legit business need to keep new products secret until they are released? Do you even know what the Gestapo was? Are you even serious, posting this? Ludicrous.
      - trotsky 16y ago
        Gestapo? I take it you think I authored the Gizmodo features that I linked to?
- sp4rki 16y ago
  He never said anything about being 'employee number ten' at Apple. He just said he felt the ambient invigorating and felt excitement to work with people of the caliber that Apple employs. Aside, making a difference doesn't have to mean to 'fix' world hunger, it's the small things that count. I feel exited to work where I do (not Apple) because I get to try new things for the benefit of the company, and because a lot of the code I check in end's up making a difference in the product sold to the end user. I'm not a drone and I appreciate that.
inovica 16y ago
That's interesting to hear. Apple is rarely mentioned on here in terms of 'going to work for them' and I agree that whilst its probably going to be a lot of hard work when you're there that you'll gain some serious knowledge and work alongside some really bright people. Good luck the next time you try. I've followed Apple for a long time and I know that there are often negatives said about Apple and personally about Steve Jobs but they sure know how to execute and create some beautiful products (both hardware and software)

by Bud 16y ago

dtby 16y ago

Nothing personal, but you are highly confused about the real world. You will not be employee #10 at Apple and they will not value contributions as wanting to make a difference. It's nice to think they will, but I so long as I have direct line to someone who thinks it's "different," I feel the need to tell you it's not.

Bud 16y ago
I've held about 10 jobs in Silicon Valley. I can tell you, the environment at Apple was rather different, and my friends who work there paint a picture of their employment there that is indeed quite different from many other stories I've heard, and jobs I've held.
- trotsky 16y ago
  Is it the fear, the secrecy or the interrogations that stand out the most? http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/steve-wozniak-spills-the-beans-on-apples-fear-culture-20100426/ http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/steve-wozniak-spills-the-...
  - ugh 16y ago
    Fear and interrogations? What’s your evidence for that? The “fear” in the headline of the article is shameless editorialization, the author of the article and his source make no further references to fear or interrogations.
    - trotsky 16y ago
      http://gizmodo.com/5427058/apple-gestapo-how-apple-hunts-down-leaks http://gizmodo.com/5427058/apple-gestapo-how-apple-hunts-dow... http://gizmodo.com/5319275/report-iphone-leak-interrogations-drive-foxconn-employee-to-suicide http://gizmodo.com/5319275/report-iphone-leak-interrogations...
      - wooster 16y ago
        FWIW, the "Apple Gestapo" article is almost entirely fabricated nonsense.
      - brianpan 16y ago
        Gizmodo is not exactly an unbiased reporter of Apple news.
  - Bud 16y ago
    Your comments are extremely unimpressive. Comparing Apple to the Gestapo because they have a legit business need to keep new products secret until they are released? Do you even know what the Gestapo was? Are you even serious, posting this? Ludicrous.
    - trotsky 16y ago
      Gestapo? I take it you think I authored the Gizmodo features that I linked to?
sp4rki 16y ago
He never said anything about being 'employee number ten' at Apple. He just said he felt the ambient invigorating and felt excitement to work with people of the caliber that Apple employs. Aside, making a difference doesn't have to mean to 'fix' world hunger, it's the small things that count. I feel exited to work where I do (not Apple) because I get to try new things for the benefit of the company, and because a lot of the code I check in end's up making a difference in the product sold to the end user. I'm not a drone and I appreciate that.

inovica 16y ago

That's interesting to hear. Apple is rarely mentioned on here in terms of 'going to work for them' and I agree that whilst its probably going to be a lot of hard work when you're there that you'll gain some serious knowledge and work alongside some really bright people. Good luck the next time you try. I've followed Apple for a long time and I know that there are often negatives said about Apple and personally about Steve Jobs but they sure know how to execute and create some beautiful products (both hardware and software)