I agree, except perhaps for self-harming behavior in borderline personality disorder. Those contain an aspect of seeking self-experience. But it get's very com

I agree, except perhaps for self-harming behavior in borderline personality disorder. Those contain an aspect of seeking self-experience. But it get's very complicated to distinguish self-harm and suicidal attempts. I'd also admit that some patients need to come to the edge to see that they also don't want to die, maybe as much as they want to.