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Most of those are either quirky and compromised or simply not (yet) available in serious quantities. I'm personally looking forward to the Hyundai/Kia models,

Most of those are either quirky and compromised or simply not (yet) available in serious quantities. I'm personally looking forward to the Hyundai/Kia models, as they seem to be closest to getting the formula right—enough range, enough power, enough fit and finish. Once the cost and supply of batteries is "solved" they could dominate the economy segment for a while.

clouddrover 7y ago
Volkswagen will likely soon overtake Hyundai with their MEB platform cars. The initial MEB models are: - Volkswagen ID.3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8cHHNPRg-c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8cHHNPRg-c - SEAT el-Born: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZI7WFtwc8g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZI7WFtwc8g - Skoda Vision iV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f1g9xl6W_E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f1g9xl6W_E - Audi Q4 e-tron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiwevzHsCbU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiwevzHsCbU Hyundai may also have some battery problems to deal with at the moment: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/electric-car-catches-fire-and-explodes-in-le-bizard-garage-1.5227665 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/electric-car-catches...
- sjwright 7y ago
  Volkswagen might do well in electrics, but that remains to be seen. Personally it'll take a while for the dieselgate stench to leave that company, at least for me. (I don't care so much about the actual emissions, for me it showed the contempt they have for their customers.)
  - clouddrover 7y ago
    Volkswagen are doing well in electric motorsport: - The Volkswagen ID.R set the fastest Goodwood hill time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8il5ohB8FYk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8il5ohB8FYk - The VW ID.R set the fastest Pikes Peak time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnH15dejp0s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnH15dejp0s - The VW ID.R set the fastest electric time (second fastest overall time) at the Nürburgring-Nordschleife: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRCiGABQupA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRCiGABQupA - Audi is already in Formula E: https://www.audi.com/en/experience-audi/audi-sport/audi-racing/formula-e.html https://www.audi.com/en/experience-audi/audi-sport/audi-raci... - And Porsche is joining Formula E next season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUrkD7WTs0w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUrkD7WTs0w Which they'll use to advertise the Porsche Taycan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohHEdaRhF1k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohHEdaRhF1k Volkswagen is investing a lot in electrics. They're doing it to clean up their image from the diesel emissions scandal, to meet the new emissions standards being set by the EU and others, and to avoid being locked out of markets which have already set timetables for banning ICE cars (like Norway and the city of Paris).
    - sjwright 7y ago
      Please, you're acting like an employee of their marketing department. Your rabid enthusiasm is not interesting. They're a car company that wants to be successful, not a sports team. Still, good luck to them—and maybe I might even consider an electric VW in the future—but it'll be a while before their reputation is repaired. (And thankfully their EVs won't have their junky and jerky DSG transmissions...so that's another plus.)
      - clouddrover 7y ago
        > Please, you're acting like an employee of their marketing department. Nope. I'm just across the issues and the state of play more than you are.

clouddrover 7y ago

Volkswagen will likely soon overtake Hyundai with their MEB platform cars. The initial MEB models are: - Volkswagen ID.3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8cHHNPRg-c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8cHHNPRg-c - SEAT el-Born: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZI7WFtwc8g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZI7WFtwc8g - Skoda Vision iV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f1g9xl6W_E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f1g9xl6W_E - Audi Q4 e-tron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiwevzHsCbU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiwevzHsCbU Hyundai may also have some battery problems to deal with at the moment: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/electric-car-catches-fire-and-explodes-in-le-bizard-garage-1.5227665 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/electric-car-catches...

sjwright 7y ago
Volkswagen might do well in electrics, but that remains to be seen. Personally it'll take a while for the dieselgate stench to leave that company, at least for me. (I don't care so much about the actual emissions, for me it showed the contempt they have for their customers.)
- clouddrover 7y ago
  Volkswagen are doing well in electric motorsport: - The Volkswagen ID.R set the fastest Goodwood hill time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8il5ohB8FYk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8il5ohB8FYk - The VW ID.R set the fastest Pikes Peak time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnH15dejp0s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnH15dejp0s - The VW ID.R set the fastest electric time (second fastest overall time) at the Nürburgring-Nordschleife: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRCiGABQupA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRCiGABQupA - Audi is already in Formula E: https://www.audi.com/en/experience-audi/audi-sport/audi-racing/formula-e.html https://www.audi.com/en/experience-audi/audi-sport/audi-raci... - And Porsche is joining Formula E next season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUrkD7WTs0w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUrkD7WTs0w Which they'll use to advertise the Porsche Taycan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohHEdaRhF1k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohHEdaRhF1k Volkswagen is investing a lot in electrics. They're doing it to clean up their image from the diesel emissions scandal, to meet the new emissions standards being set by the EU and others, and to avoid being locked out of markets which have already set timetables for banning ICE cars (like Norway and the city of Paris).
  - sjwright 7y ago
    Please, you're acting like an employee of their marketing department. Your rabid enthusiasm is not interesting. They're a car company that wants to be successful, not a sports team. Still, good luck to them—and maybe I might even consider an electric VW in the future—but it'll be a while before their reputation is repaired. (And thankfully their EVs won't have their junky and jerky DSG transmissions...so that's another plus.)
    - clouddrover 7y ago
      > Please, you're acting like an employee of their marketing department. Nope. I'm just across the issues and the state of play more than you are.