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The ROI argument is one reason why I commute by bike. 7 days a week no problem, no real preparation time. Takes up time I would otherwise be wasting sitting in

The ROI argument is one reason why I commute by bike. 7 days a week no problem, no real preparation time. Takes up time I would otherwise be wasting sitting in a car or public transit. Last week according to my log I rode for 213 minutes. That's a bit more than 30 minutes per day.

koyote 7y ago
I have done the same and it's great. The main issue is that I used to spend the commute reading books. So I have basically exchanged "mental" excericse with physical excercise. I feel that listening to an audiobook while cycling is a bit too dangerous for an urban commute like mine.
- padraic7a 7y ago
  I really sympathise with this. I changed job about two yeas ago and switched from an hour long train ride to a 30 minute cycyle. The shorter commute is great, and the in built exercise is great, but man I really miss that chance to read, or just relax.
  - Freak_NL 7y ago
    Why not get into the habit of reading in bed for a while before sleep? It helps the brain wind down, and is easy to maintain as a habit.
- Doctor_Fegg 7y ago
  I have all my best ideas while riding my bike. It’s mental exercise of a different sort.
Franciscouzo 7y ago
You have to take into account that riding a bike is way more risky than using a car.
- bacon_waffle 7y ago
  And also more fun, better for the planet, far less expensive...
- sundvor 7y ago
  How do you measure risk? Done consistently over a long period, driving a car instead of riding a bike if possible will make you fat and age quicker. I swapped jobs so that I could ditch the car and am slowly reversing the damage.
- dredmorbius 7y ago
  Citation requested. I've been looking for information on risk, overall, by passenger miles travelled, by trips, and by time-in-mode (which adjusts for typical trip length). Only partially successful, though I find: 30,690 overall auto fatalities. - 6,067 cycling & edestrial fatalities, combined. - "More than 90% of pedestrian fatalities occurred when the victims were hit by automobiles and light trucks." - "A related study on risk factors for on-road cycling commuters indicated that prior to car-bicycle accidents, 89% of cyclists were traveled in a safe and legal manner. In addition, vehicle drivers were at fault in 87% of the events." https://journalistsresource.org/studies/environment/transportation/comparing-fatality-risks-united-states-transportation-across-modes-time/ https://journalistsresource.org/studies/environment/transpor... The risk externalities of motorised vs nonmotorised transport appear far greater.
  - statguy 7y ago
    The parent didn't mean to say whether cyclists or drivers were more or less at fault, but for every minute/mile spent on a cycle instead of a car, the likelihood of injury is probably higher.
    - dredmorbius 7y ago
      Understood. However it's interesting to note that motor vehicles are the major source of cycling risk, all the same.
- 7y ago

koyote 7y ago

I have done the same and it's great. The main issue is that I used to spend the commute reading books. So I have basically exchanged "mental" excericse with physical excercise. I feel that listening to an audiobook while cycling is a bit too dangerous for an urban commute like mine.

padraic7a 7y ago
I really sympathise with this. I changed job about two yeas ago and switched from an hour long train ride to a 30 minute cycyle. The shorter commute is great, and the in built exercise is great, but man I really miss that chance to read, or just relax.
- Freak_NL 7y ago
  Why not get into the habit of reading in bed for a while before sleep? It helps the brain wind down, and is easy to maintain as a habit.
Doctor_Fegg 7y ago
I have all my best ideas while riding my bike. It’s mental exercise of a different sort.

Franciscouzo 7y ago

You have to take into account that riding a bike is way more risky than using a car.

bacon_waffle 7y ago
And also more fun, better for the planet, far less expensive...
sundvor 7y ago
How do you measure risk? Done consistently over a long period, driving a car instead of riding a bike if possible will make you fat and age quicker. I swapped jobs so that I could ditch the car and am slowly reversing the damage.
dredmorbius 7y ago
Citation requested. I've been looking for information on risk, overall, by passenger miles travelled, by trips, and by time-in-mode (which adjusts for typical trip length). Only partially successful, though I find: 30,690 overall auto fatalities. - 6,067 cycling & edestrial fatalities, combined. - "More than 90% of pedestrian fatalities occurred when the victims were hit by automobiles and light trucks." - "A related study on risk factors for on-road cycling commuters indicated that prior to car-bicycle accidents, 89% of cyclists were traveled in a safe and legal manner. In addition, vehicle drivers were at fault in 87% of the events." https://journalistsresource.org/studies/environment/transportation/comparing-fatality-risks-united-states-transportation-across-modes-time/ https://journalistsresource.org/studies/environment/transpor... The risk externalities of motorised vs nonmotorised transport appear far greater.
- statguy 7y ago
  The parent didn't mean to say whether cyclists or drivers were more or less at fault, but for every minute/mile spent on a cycle instead of a car, the likelihood of injury is probably higher.
  - dredmorbius 7y ago
    Understood. However it's interesting to note that motor vehicles are the major source of cycling risk, all the same.
7y ago