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Too many instances of this happening for this to be the case. Plenty of reports on this site and others stating they bought from the proper Amazon seller and st

by bigtex 7y ago

Too many instances of this happening for this to be the case. Plenty of reports on this site and others stating they bought from the proper Amazon seller and still getting counterfeit product. I bought a SpyderCo knife "Ship and Sold by Amazon" that was an obvious fake. I just think Amazon doesn't care, they shipped a free replacement that happened to be legitimate.

ikeboy 7y ago
>Plenty of reports on this site and others stating they bought from the proper Amazon seller and still getting counterfeit product. That's entirely consistent with them tracking it. If you report that, they'll know who actually shipped it in and will punish them.
- jessaustin 7y ago
  What sort of punishment are we talking about? They can't take back money they've already paid out. Do they throw away the rest of the products?
  - ikeboy 7y ago
    https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/19/18140799/amazon-marketplace-scams-seller-court-appeal-reinstatement https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/19/18140799/amazon-marketpl...
    - jessaustin 7y ago
      Two things. First, your link describes various punishments suffered by "good guys": legitimate sellers who've built up a brand and product set over time, whose thin margins are destroyed by those punishments. The bad guys don't have to spend near as much money on their fake goods, so their margins aren't thin and these punishments are simply a cost of doing business. They also structure their Amazon relationship differently, with lots of different accounts and brands and products, so that any particular adverse event won't kill them. Second, I don't see anywhere in that link where they're talking about commingling and its related issues. I think that was already a well-publicized issue back in December when this link was published, so I assume that they didn't mention it in order to curry favor with either Amazon or with the various entrepreneurs in the Amazon ecosystem who agreed to be quoted. This link certainly doesn't establish that malignant comminglers are ever punished in any way.
      - ikeboy 7y ago
        It's a lot harder to open multiple accounts than it used to be. They now require ID verification on every account. You just asked me how Amazon punishes sellers, so I provided some examples. You can find many more by searching. Obviously the sellers that were actually selling counterfeits aren't going to be doing interviews.

by bigtex 7y ago

ikeboy 7y ago

>Plenty of reports on this site and others stating they bought from the proper Amazon seller and still getting counterfeit product. That's entirely consistent with them tracking it. If you report that, they'll know who actually shipped it in and will punish them.

jessaustin 7y ago
What sort of punishment are we talking about? They can't take back money they've already paid out. Do they throw away the rest of the products?
- ikeboy 7y ago
  https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/19/18140799/amazon-marketplace-scams-seller-court-appeal-reinstatement https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/19/18140799/amazon-marketpl...
  - jessaustin 7y ago
    Two things. First, your link describes various punishments suffered by "good guys": legitimate sellers who've built up a brand and product set over time, whose thin margins are destroyed by those punishments. The bad guys don't have to spend near as much money on their fake goods, so their margins aren't thin and these punishments are simply a cost of doing business. They also structure their Amazon relationship differently, with lots of different accounts and brands and products, so that any particular adverse event won't kill them. Second, I don't see anywhere in that link where they're talking about commingling and its related issues. I think that was already a well-publicized issue back in December when this link was published, so I assume that they didn't mention it in order to curry favor with either Amazon or with the various entrepreneurs in the Amazon ecosystem who agreed to be quoted. This link certainly doesn't establish that malignant comminglers are ever punished in any way.
    - ikeboy 7y ago
      It's a lot harder to open multiple accounts than it used to be. They now require ID verification on every account. You just asked me how Amazon punishes sellers, so I provided some examples. You can find many more by searching. Obviously the sellers that were actually selling counterfeits aren't going to be doing interviews.