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Climate more pressing than Brexit, say 71% of Britons – poll

33 points by perfunctory 7y ago

thefounder 7y ago
I wonder if they would back it with their wallet or start a yellow vests movement or even worse, vote a climate change denier like U.S did.
- lostlogin 7y ago
  As far as I can tell, Boris has said whatever suits him with regard to climate change. https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/05/boris-johnson-challenged-by-labour-over-climate-science https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environme... Hardly an unbiased source, but the DeSmog organisation are pointing out that the new UK leadership are climate change deniers with regressive politics. https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.desmog.co.uk/2019/07/25/boris-johnson-s-cabinet-most-anti-climate-action-ever%3famp https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.desmog.co.uk/2019/07/25/b...
13415 7y ago
Not a very meaningful poll, if you ask me. It's currently hot in Northern Europe and people are tired of the Brexit discussion, and the two issues do not have much to do with each other. It's like asking whether apples or oranges are more important.
- boudin 7y ago
  It is in regards to the fact that Brexit has been the main priority of the UK government since the referendum and it does feel that everything else has been paused.
  - paulddraper 7y ago
    Forgive my skepticism, but has Brexit really been the dominating priority for over 3 years? Isn't that the promise primary purpose of the recent PM + Cabinet shakeup after three years: to actually make Brexit happen?
    - boudin 7y ago
      After 3 prime ministers and government re-shuffles, i would say yes.
      - paulddraper 7y ago
        Yes, now it is.
octosphere 7y ago
That's because Brexit and climate emergencies are both essentially gradualist[0] topics. They are topics which will be sat on and dragged out for as long as possible because it's something to talk about in parliament. Brexit is something for them to do and make them look busy, but we all know Brexit and the climate emergency has been dragged out for far too long. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gradualism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gradualism
- guilhas 7y ago
  Not really, brexit has been a very difficult discussion that has been taking too much time and not enjoyable for any politician because they have to take a side, which 50% of people will disagree. Climate is something no one will disagree, so there's only one side, and it looks good to talk about it.

33 points by perfunctory 7y ago

I wonder if they would back it with their wallet or start a yellow vests movement or even worse, vote a climate change denier like U.S did.

lostlogin 7y ago
As far as I can tell, Boris has said whatever suits him with regard to climate change. https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/05/boris-johnson-challenged-by-labour-over-climate-science https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environme... Hardly an unbiased source, but the DeSmog organisation are pointing out that the new UK leadership are climate change deniers with regressive politics. https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.desmog.co.uk/2019/07/25/boris-johnson-s-cabinet-most-anti-climate-action-ever%3famp https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.desmog.co.uk/2019/07/25/b...

13415 7y ago

Not a very meaningful poll, if you ask me. It's currently hot in Northern Europe and people are tired of the Brexit discussion, and the two issues do not have much to do with each other. It's like asking whether apples or oranges are more important.

boudin 7y ago
It is in regards to the fact that Brexit has been the main priority of the UK government since the referendum and it does feel that everything else has been paused.
- paulddraper 7y ago
  Forgive my skepticism, but has Brexit really been the dominating priority for over 3 years? Isn't that the promise primary purpose of the recent PM + Cabinet shakeup after three years: to actually make Brexit happen?
  - boudin 7y ago
    After 3 prime ministers and government re-shuffles, i would say yes.
    - paulddraper 7y ago
      Yes, now it is.

octosphere 7y ago

That's because Brexit and climate emergencies are both essentially gradualist[0] topics. They are topics which will be sat on and dragged out for as long as possible because it's something to talk about in parliament. Brexit is something for them to do and make them look busy, but we all know Brexit and the climate emergency has been dragged out for far too long. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gradualism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gradualism

guilhas 7y ago
Not really, brexit has been a very difficult discussion that has been taking too much time and not enjoyable for any politician because they have to take a side, which 50% of people will disagree. Climate is something no one will disagree, so there's only one side, and it looks good to talk about it.