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Fuck these jocks So maybe I'm being a little oversensitive here, but attitudes like this toward athletes are total bullshit. I'm going to go out on an egotist

Fuck these jocks So maybe I'm being a little oversensitive here, but attitudes like this toward athletes are total bullshit. I'm going to go out on an egotistical limb here and say that I'm a pretty fucking competent coder, but before I was I was a pretty decent Football player. Don't make this an "us vs. them" thing, because that's a false dichotomy if I've ever heard one.

strlen 16y ago
No, you're not oversensitive here. I am. I regret putting that comment in. It's a visceral, emotional gut reaction. Nonetheless, I'll leave it there: editing it out would be Orwellian. However, there's an interesting point: they spent their time perfecting their rowing skills to an olympic level, that's where their passion lays. It's difficult to be an olympic rower and a top notch hacker at the same time: it's one thing to dabble in both, it's another to master one. I work out for at least an hour 5-6 days a week, but I'm not an athlete. The hours I have to spend to become proficient at programming don't leave time for equal amount of hours (10,000 according to Gladwell) to be spent on sport. Winklevii made their choices, Zuck made his.
- fingerprinter 16y ago
  Going on a HUGE side tangent here b/c working out, fitness and overall health is a huge passion of mine... people don't know how to workout....and people don't know what an 'athlete' does when they workout. I've been around professional and collegiate athletes for quite some time and I think most people would be amazed to see how little they actually workout. The basic thought the past 20 years was 'more is better' when it comes to the body; more working out is better than less working out. What we are learning and something good trainers and athletes have known for some time is that the amount of working out takes a huge backseat to doing the right kind of working out at the right intensity level. It is more mythos created by the sports industry when we hear that someone is 'in the gym' 10 hours a day. This might be accurate, but the time they are actually working out is minimal (or, rather, it should be if they value their asset aka body). Now, to someone like you working out 5-6 days a week for (guessing) an hour...I guarantee that if I changed your routine and intensity levels you would become an athlete you never dreamed you could be. I could probably do it in literally half the time as well. I'll leave you with this...which do you think is more effective as a workout: 60 minutes on the treadmill or elliptical or 10 minutes of sprinting intervals @ 75 max effort? Did you know you can get one of the best and hardest workouts of your life if you just did 5 minutes of Tabata style kettlebell swings (20 seconds swings, 10 sec break for 5 minutes)? Knowing the body and being able to hack the body are so foreign to most folks they literally have no idea what it means to workout like an athlete.
  - moultano 16y ago
    Have a good resource on "tabata style kettleball swings?"
    - nanijoe 16y ago
      Look up "Cross Fit"
    - fingerprinter 16y ago
      The technical name is 'Tabata Protocol' and google is your friend here. Also, YouTube is awesome for finding good workouts if you know the right search terms. To get you started, this is a good video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtgRcqaOqDo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtgRcqaOqDo Just note that you should be going much, much harder (more intense) than she is doing. Remember, 20 seconds all out, 10 seconds rest. You can also vary the intensity by weight of KB and not just speed. I use a 53 pound KB for single arm swings and a 70 pound for double arm swings (at the gym...don't have a 70 for the home yet). If you have a tough time counting 20 seconds and 10 seconds, the GymBoss timer (http://www.gymboss.com/ http://www.gymboss.com/ ), available on Amazon is a great way to time. Some quick articles on tabata: http://www.thefitnessmonster.com/2010/02/hiit-for-fat-loss-tabata-protocol.html http://www.thefitnessmonster.com/2010/02/hiit-for-fat-loss-t... http://ezinearticles.com/?Kettlebell-Tabata-Workout---Swings-For-Rapid-Fat-Loss&id=3772838 http://ezinearticles.com/?Kettlebell-Tabata-Workout---Swings... You can do anything in a tabata fashion. For instance, you can sprint, you can do an exercise bike if you have some issues running (I'm rehabbing an Achilles tear so I stick to KB, swimming and some variants I'll talk about in a minute) or anything you can do for 20 seconds. I'll even make circuits for Tabata workouts. This is a great one that gets you quite exhausted and will boost your metabolism sky high as well... 2-4 rounds, 20 seconds of each exercise in order, 10 second in between exercises. Pushup - you can do any type: traditional, military, diamond, plyo. Even vary it up in the different rounds. KB swings - See previous Burpees - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MGljX4bbps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MGljX4bbps Air Squats or Jack/Power Squats* - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1FpWEfJW1s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1FpWEfJW1s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEwitPuU0Xg&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEwitPuU0Xg&feature=relat... Plank crunch (or variants) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31SbKgmHcmw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31SbKgmHcmw Once done...take a 10 second break and start over again going for 2-4 total rounds. If you do 2 rounds, that is 5 total minutes for working out. 4 Rounds is 10 minutes. This is very, very tough (honestly) and sometimes I have a hard time doing all 10 minutes w/ full intensity.
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fluorescentLAMP 16y ago
Yeah, that made me cringe too. There are competent CS students that are also college athletes. ;)

strlen 16y ago

No, you're not oversensitive here. I am. I regret putting that comment in. It's a visceral, emotional gut reaction. Nonetheless, I'll leave it there: editing it out would be Orwellian. However, there's an interesting point: they spent their time perfecting their rowing skills to an olympic level, that's where their passion lays. It's difficult to be an olympic rower and a top notch hacker at the same time: it's one thing to dabble in both, it's another to master one. I work out for at least an hour 5-6 days a week, but I'm not an athlete. The hours I have to spend to become proficient at programming don't leave time for equal amount of hours (10,000 according to Gladwell) to be spent on sport. Winklevii made their choices, Zuck made his.

fingerprinter 16y ago
Going on a HUGE side tangent here b/c working out, fitness and overall health is a huge passion of mine... people don't know how to workout....and people don't know what an 'athlete' does when they workout. I've been around professional and collegiate athletes for quite some time and I think most people would be amazed to see how little they actually workout. The basic thought the past 20 years was 'more is better' when it comes to the body; more working out is better than less working out. What we are learning and something good trainers and athletes have known for some time is that the amount of working out takes a huge backseat to doing the right kind of working out at the right intensity level. It is more mythos created by the sports industry when we hear that someone is 'in the gym' 10 hours a day. This might be accurate, but the time they are actually working out is minimal (or, rather, it should be if they value their asset aka body). Now, to someone like you working out 5-6 days a week for (guessing) an hour...I guarantee that if I changed your routine and intensity levels you would become an athlete you never dreamed you could be. I could probably do it in literally half the time as well. I'll leave you with this...which do you think is more effective as a workout: 60 minutes on the treadmill or elliptical or 10 minutes of sprinting intervals @ 75 max effort? Did you know you can get one of the best and hardest workouts of your life if you just did 5 minutes of Tabata style kettlebell swings (20 seconds swings, 10 sec break for 5 minutes)? Knowing the body and being able to hack the body are so foreign to most folks they literally have no idea what it means to workout like an athlete.
- moultano 16y ago
  Have a good resource on "tabata style kettleball swings?"
  - nanijoe 16y ago
    Look up "Cross Fit"
  - fingerprinter 16y ago
    The technical name is 'Tabata Protocol' and google is your friend here. Also, YouTube is awesome for finding good workouts if you know the right search terms. To get you started, this is a good video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtgRcqaOqDo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtgRcqaOqDo Just note that you should be going much, much harder (more intense) than she is doing. Remember, 20 seconds all out, 10 seconds rest. You can also vary the intensity by weight of KB and not just speed. I use a 53 pound KB for single arm swings and a 70 pound for double arm swings (at the gym...don't have a 70 for the home yet). If you have a tough time counting 20 seconds and 10 seconds, the GymBoss timer (http://www.gymboss.com/ http://www.gymboss.com/ ), available on Amazon is a great way to time. Some quick articles on tabata: http://www.thefitnessmonster.com/2010/02/hiit-for-fat-loss-tabata-protocol.html http://www.thefitnessmonster.com/2010/02/hiit-for-fat-loss-t... http://ezinearticles.com/?Kettlebell-Tabata-Workout---Swings-For-Rapid-Fat-Loss&id=3772838 http://ezinearticles.com/?Kettlebell-Tabata-Workout---Swings... You can do anything in a tabata fashion. For instance, you can sprint, you can do an exercise bike if you have some issues running (I'm rehabbing an Achilles tear so I stick to KB, swimming and some variants I'll talk about in a minute) or anything you can do for 20 seconds. I'll even make circuits for Tabata workouts. This is a great one that gets you quite exhausted and will boost your metabolism sky high as well... 2-4 rounds, 20 seconds of each exercise in order, 10 second in between exercises. Pushup - you can do any type: traditional, military, diamond, plyo. Even vary it up in the different rounds. KB swings - See previous Burpees - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MGljX4bbps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MGljX4bbps Air Squats or Jack/Power Squats* - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1FpWEfJW1s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1FpWEfJW1s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEwitPuU0Xg&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEwitPuU0Xg&feature=relat... Plank crunch (or variants) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31SbKgmHcmw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31SbKgmHcmw Once done...take a 10 second break and start over again going for 2-4 total rounds. If you do 2 rounds, that is 5 total minutes for working out. 4 Rounds is 10 minutes. This is very, very tough (honestly) and sometimes I have a hard time doing all 10 minutes w/ full intensity.

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fluorescentLAMP 16y ago

Yeah, that made me cringe too. There are competent CS students that are also college athletes. ;)