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But developers using Macs for x86 Linux development is a common thing. Besides that they actually also might need the Mac part (Office, other software requireme

by _ph_ 7y ago

But developers using Macs for x86 Linux development is a common thing. Besides that they actually also might need the Mac part (Office, other software requirements), it certainly would be a hit to Apple, if those developers dropped the Macs. I am one developer using a MacBook Pro at work, but depend on the ability to run x86-Linux VMs. I could not use an ARM-Based Laptop for work.

pjmlp 7y ago
Those developers would be better off supporting Linux OEMs. That is what I did with my Asus travel netbook (1215 B), which was sold with Ubuntu LTS pre-installed.
- _ph_ 7y ago
  I can repeat what I wrote: people like me are dependant on MacOS and on Linux. Currently the Mac offers this ability. I would like to use a native Linux machine, but the only alternative for me would be Windows + VM. And in any case, if the developers are happy with a non-Mac machine, Apple shouldn't be :). Unless they really want to continue their course of driving anyone who does not depend on a Mac for living and who doesn't have limitless funds away. For private usage, I am about to switch to native Linux for my next laptop, unless Apple comes out with laptops with a reliable keyboard and realistic upgrade pricing again. Ironically, I would love an ARM-based laptop for private usage, if I can get one, I might just get the new Pinebook Pro.
  - danaris 7y ago
    All signs are pointing to Apple releasing a laptop with a new scissor-switch keyboard design Soon™. I'm not sure what you mean about "realistic upgrade pricing"...it's not like you've ever been able to "trade in" an old computer to any manufacturer for a steep discount on a newer model (analogous to upgrade pricing of software)...
    - _ph_ 7y ago
      I mean the prices you need to pay to upgrade the machines beyond the basis configuation. Currently Apple charges 240€ for 8g of memory, and 240€ for 128g of ssd upgrade. The latter is 1920€/tb, while market prices are between 100€ and 300€/tb. A MB Air with 16g/512g is at 2000€, not counting Apple care, which is basically mandatory.

by _ph_ 7y ago

pjmlp 7y ago

Those developers would be better off supporting Linux OEMs. That is what I did with my Asus travel netbook (1215 B), which was sold with Ubuntu LTS pre-installed.

_ph_ 7y ago
I can repeat what I wrote: people like me are dependant on MacOS and on Linux. Currently the Mac offers this ability. I would like to use a native Linux machine, but the only alternative for me would be Windows + VM. And in any case, if the developers are happy with a non-Mac machine, Apple shouldn't be :). Unless they really want to continue their course of driving anyone who does not depend on a Mac for living and who doesn't have limitless funds away. For private usage, I am about to switch to native Linux for my next laptop, unless Apple comes out with laptops with a reliable keyboard and realistic upgrade pricing again. Ironically, I would love an ARM-based laptop for private usage, if I can get one, I might just get the new Pinebook Pro.
- danaris 7y ago
  All signs are pointing to Apple releasing a laptop with a new scissor-switch keyboard design Soon™. I'm not sure what you mean about "realistic upgrade pricing"...it's not like you've ever been able to "trade in" an old computer to any manufacturer for a steep discount on a newer model (analogous to upgrade pricing of software)...
  - _ph_ 7y ago
    I mean the prices you need to pay to upgrade the machines beyond the basis configuation. Currently Apple charges 240€ for 8g of memory, and 240€ for 128g of ssd upgrade. The latter is 1920€/tb, while market prices are between 100€ and 300€/tb. A MB Air with 16g/512g is at 2000€, not counting Apple care, which is basically mandatory.