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Australia doesn’t require voter ID either. Voter ID is a vehicle for voter suppression (and generally called for by the politically conservative).

by flgb 7y ago

mc32 7y ago
You’re right. I forgot Australia and NZ. Never the less even left leaning or liberal countries out there require ID to vote: Brazil (was left), Sweden, Spain, Greece (Syriza), but then you have truly poor countries with truly poor people who still pull it off, like The Gambia, Ukraine, Libya, etc. Ukraine and The Gambia are made up of many ethnicities and they manage to do it. None the less, we're down the list at no. 26 when it comes to voter integrity[1]. This is from 2014, so it's not encumbered by today's politics. Ahead of us: Norway, Germany, Netherlands, Iceland, Czech Republic, Austria, South Korea, Slovenia, Israel, Cyprus, Lithuania, Australia, Rwanda, Japan, Chile, Italy, Grenada, Malta, Argentina, Georgia and Mongolia. All except Australia req. Voter ID. I (and everyone else) needs to present ID for cold medicine. I don't see this being burdensome. [1]https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2014/11/study-ranks-united-states-26th-world-integrity-its-elections/ https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2014/11/study-ranks-...
- thatcat 7y ago
  Voter id is not required because by requiring it you shift voter demographics away from poor/minority/elderly people who don't have an id. The cost for an id should be zero if it is required to vote.
  - trazire 7y ago
    It normally is in Voter ID states like my (for a couple more days) home state of Wisconsin. The problem is that a lot of people can't provide supporting documentation, i.e. a birth certificate.
thomasfedb 7y ago
In Australia you simply attest that you are eligible to vote, repeat your name and address as per the electoral roll, and you're good to go — ballot in one hand, sausage sizzle in the other. You don't even have to demount from your skippy. I've never heard anybody suggest that an election outcome has been affected by any part of this. And we vote on paper too, no computer fuckups.
cookie_monsta 7y ago
the other thing that makes Australia an outlier on these kinds of lists is that it enforces compulsory voting, which tends to counter-effect attempts at voter suppression

Australia doesn’t require voter ID either. Voter ID is a vehicle for voter suppression (and generally called for by the politically conservative).

by flgb 7y ago

Australia doesn’t require voter ID either. Voter ID is a vehicle for voter suppression (and generally called for by the politically conservative).

mc32 7y ago

You’re right. I forgot Australia and NZ. Never the less even left leaning or liberal countries out there require ID to vote: Brazil (was left), Sweden, Spain, Greece (Syriza), but then you have truly poor countries with truly poor people who still pull it off, like The Gambia, Ukraine, Libya, etc. Ukraine and The Gambia are made up of many ethnicities and they manage to do it. None the less, we're down the list at no. 26 when it comes to voter integrity[1]. This is from 2014, so it's not encumbered by today's politics. Ahead of us: Norway, Germany, Netherlands, Iceland, Czech Republic, Austria, South Korea, Slovenia, Israel, Cyprus, Lithuania, Australia, Rwanda, Japan, Chile, Italy, Grenada, Malta, Argentina, Georgia and Mongolia. All except Australia req. Voter ID. I (and everyone else) needs to present ID for cold medicine. I don't see this being burdensome. [1]https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2014/11/study-ranks-united-states-26th-world-integrity-its-elections/ https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2014/11/study-ranks-...

thatcat 7y ago
Voter id is not required because by requiring it you shift voter demographics away from poor/minority/elderly people who don't have an id. The cost for an id should be zero if it is required to vote.
- trazire 7y ago
  It normally is in Voter ID states like my (for a couple more days) home state of Wisconsin. The problem is that a lot of people can't provide supporting documentation, i.e. a birth certificate.

thomasfedb 7y ago

In Australia you simply attest that you are eligible to vote, repeat your name and address as per the electoral roll, and you're good to go — ballot in one hand, sausage sizzle in the other. You don't even have to demount from your skippy. I've never heard anybody suggest that an election outcome has been affected by any part of this. And we vote on paper too, no computer fuckups.

cookie_monsta 7y ago

the other thing that makes Australia an outlier on these kinds of lists is that it enforces compulsory voting, which tends to counter-effect attempts at voter suppression