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The very existence of America is a human rights violation, vis-a-vis the original inhabitants and African slavery. Not to mention the multitude of similar abuse
by tombh 7y ago
The very existence of America is a human rights violation, vis-a-vis the original inhabitants and African slavery. Not to mention the multitude of similar abuses those same Europeans caused over the rest of the world. China's violations are certainly serious, but it's just not comparable to the sheer extent of the West's.
- _bxg1 7y agoI was of course only talking about the present and future. That's what matters when it comes to foreign policy.
- roboys 7y agoWe are tied to so many treaties and agreements made in the past, that I believe this is not the case.
- mhh__ 7y ago> China's violations are certainly serious, but it's just not comparable to the sheer extent of the West's. Within recent history this just isn't true. In fact I'm not even sure it's true over history going back to the creation of the colonies: Decades spent under communism - millions dead, freedom totally unknown and nothing to show for it. I don't know to assign magnitude to anything like that, but to say they aren't comparable is wrong.
- roboys 7y agoIndia never had a famine before the British landed on its shores, when all was said and done, they stole over $45 trillion dollars worth of value from that single nation... I imagine Africa's stolen loot was many times larger (just the gold export records from South Africa are staggering), not even counting the rest of the world. China would have to maliciously work for decades (maybe centuries) to do the same kind of economic damage that Europe did to these regions. Realize we are comparing the Chinese, who invaded almost nobody in the last 2000 years, to Europeans, who have invaded almost everybody just in the last 500 years. Not even close here....
- mhh__ 7y agoHow many people do you estimate died unnecessarily under Mao?
- blarg1 7y ago> the original inhabitants could say the same about China's history, how many ethnic groups have been genocided because they didn't want to be ruled by the Han
- Paradigma11 7y agoThe Dzungar People might disagree, if they were not killed off: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzungar_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzungar_genocide