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Obviously I was disputing it. You do know that Gavin McInnes wife is an Indian right and he started the proud boys as a joke? Do do know that right? I wouldn'

by davesmith1983 7y ago

Obviously I was disputing it. You do know that Gavin McInnes wife is an Indian right and he started the proud boys as a joke? Do do know that right? I wouldn't believe everything you read from those sources. The SPLC just had to apologise and pay 3.3 million to Maajid Nawas because they called him Islamophobic and he is a Muslim. Maajid Nawas was suing them for deformation in the UK. https://www.splcenter.org/news/2018/06/18/splc-statement-regarding-maajid-nawaz-and-quilliam-foundation https://www.splcenter.org/news/2018/06/18/splc-statement-reg...

Frondo 7y ago
If you'd like to post anything refuting the fact that the Proud Boys are a white supremacist group, please do so. None of these statements: 1) they have non-white members so they can't be, 2) the founder has a non-white wife, 3) the SPL Center was successfully sued for unrelated reasons by someone unrelated to the Proud Boys, or 3) "it started as a joke" refute the claim.
- davesmith1983 7y ago
  No sorry this is backwards. I don't have to prove anything. I wasn't making a claim they were (and it is quite a serious claim). As far as I am concerned there is no evidence other than spurious claims from the SPLC and the ADL. I gave you evidence that the SPLC throws the racism (Islamophobia is a very similar accusation) around too liberally and because Maajid Nawas is in the UK that has tighter defamation laws he was able sue them for a substantial amount of money. If the SPLC doesn't do basic research about Maajid Nawas, how can you trust they have done their research about the Proud Boys? The answer is you can't. And sorry those statements do somewhat refute the claim. White-supremacists wouldn't have non-white people in their movement. White-supremacists wouldn't have children with non-whites (they call those people race-traitors). The movement was started as a joke (Gavin McInnes was on Joe Rogan Podcast 920 & 710 I believe it was one of these appearances where he specifically coined the term, but it could be an earlier appearance on his show). So I can back up everything I've said. All I've seen presented so far from you is smear pieces by organisations that even Noam Chomsky has criticised in the past.

Frondo 7y ago

If you'd like to post anything refuting the fact that the Proud Boys are a white supremacist group, please do so. None of these statements: 1) they have non-white members so they can't be, 2) the founder has a non-white wife, 3) the SPL Center was successfully sued for unrelated reasons by someone unrelated to the Proud Boys, or 3) "it started as a joke" refute the claim.

davesmith1983 7y ago
No sorry this is backwards. I don't have to prove anything. I wasn't making a claim they were (and it is quite a serious claim). As far as I am concerned there is no evidence other than spurious claims from the SPLC and the ADL. I gave you evidence that the SPLC throws the racism (Islamophobia is a very similar accusation) around too liberally and because Maajid Nawas is in the UK that has tighter defamation laws he was able sue them for a substantial amount of money. If the SPLC doesn't do basic research about Maajid Nawas, how can you trust they have done their research about the Proud Boys? The answer is you can't. And sorry those statements do somewhat refute the claim. White-supremacists wouldn't have non-white people in their movement. White-supremacists wouldn't have children with non-whites (they call those people race-traitors). The movement was started as a joke (Gavin McInnes was on Joe Rogan Podcast 920 & 710 I believe it was one of these appearances where he specifically coined the term, but it could be an earlier appearance on his show). So I can back up everything I've said. All I've seen presented so far from you is smear pieces by organisations that even Noam Chomsky has criticised in the past.