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Pretty decent specs for the price, but unfortunately it appears that they've stuck with the same bizarre keyboard layout as the older iterations of the Pinebook

Pretty decent specs for the price, but unfortunately it appears that they've stuck with the same bizarre keyboard layout as the older iterations of the Pinebook- take a look at where they map out the slashes and double-quote! The layout of the physical keys would make it tricky to remap them to something more familiar.

HomeDeLaPot 7y ago
What the hell? I use @ and " all day! I'd love to hear the reasoning behind swapping the two
- jplayer01 7y ago
  It looks like the UK layout to me. I remember the @ being in a weird place. I'll probably just change the sw layout to US. I already do the same with German keyboards.
  - jacobush 7y ago
    German keyboards are the weirdest - why switch Z and Y? YYYY? :-)
    - pgeorgi 7y ago
      It's rather uncommon to run into a "y" in German, so why give it such a central position on the keyboard? "Z" is more common, if only because German has a "tz" digraph. Es ist eher ungewöhnlich, im Deutschen auf ein "y" zu stoßen, also warum sollte man ihm eine solche zentrale Position auf der Tastatur geben? "Z" ist üblicher, und wenn es nur wegen des "tz" Digraphen ist. Two sentences saying the same in both languages. English: 3 "y" and 0 "z" outside quotes. German: 0 "y" and 2 "z" outside quotes.
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      - jacobush 7y ago
        Ah, das ist Richtich - ich habe nicht "y" sehen viele Gange/Hären in Deutsche texten ... Alle Germanischer Sprachen verstehe ich am bisschen :-P omg that was very, very bad... sorry for butchering the language but it was fun :-D :-D
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    - benj111 7y ago
      Now, if you'd have finished your message 'ZZZZ?', that would have been funny. :P
  - rjsw 7y ago
    It isn't a UK layout.
    - jplayer01 7y ago
      It isn't? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_American_keyboards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_American_keyboards It even has the Alt Gr. I wish they'd just show the actual keyboard top-down instead of these weird angles. Even the one picture where they compare the ANSI and ISO layouts is a picture of two notebooks from a side angle ... like why? https://www.pine64.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/PInebookPro_ANSIISO.png https://www.pine64.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/PInebookPr...
      - stordoff 7y ago
        Pre-production, but their blog has a top-down shot of the ISO keyboard: https://www.pine64.org/2019/05/06/may-2019-news/ https://www.pine64.org/2019/05/06/may-2019-news/
        jplayer01 7y ago
        There we go, thanks.
    - stordoff 7y ago
      Other than Delete instead of Right-Ctrl, it looks like a UK layout to me: https://www.pine64.org/2019/05/06/may-2019-news/ https://www.pine64.org/2019/05/06/may-2019-news/
aidenn0 7y ago
That keyboard is an ISO standard. Their recent blog articles have indicated they will be offering an ANSI layout[1] once they find appropriate hardware. 1:https://www.pine64.org/2019/06/06/june-2019-news-pinephone-pinebook-pro-and-pinetab/ https://www.pine64.org/2019/06/06/june-2019-news-pinephone-p...
- dmix 7y ago
  ISO looks like a Macbook keyboard. Haven't seen a laptop like the ANSI one before in a long time.
  - aidenn0 7y ago
    What country are you in? My macbook keyboard definitely doesn't look like the ISO one (the ISO one is the one with the L shaped return key).
    - dmix 7y ago
      Oh apologies I mean ANSI then. The caption on the picture in the above article says "ANSI and ISO Keyboard Variants" which I assumed was left ANSI/right ISO, but it's reversed I guess. https://www.pine64.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/PInebookPro_ANSIISO.png https://www.pine64.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/PInebookPr...
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HomeDeLaPot 7y ago

What the hell? I use @ and " all day! I'd love to hear the reasoning behind swapping the two

jplayer01 7y ago
It looks like the UK layout to me. I remember the @ being in a weird place. I'll probably just change the sw layout to US. I already do the same with German keyboards.
- jacobush 7y ago
  German keyboards are the weirdest - why switch Z and Y? YYYY? :-)
  - pgeorgi 7y ago
    It's rather uncommon to run into a "y" in German, so why give it such a central position on the keyboard? "Z" is more common, if only because German has a "tz" digraph. Es ist eher ungewöhnlich, im Deutschen auf ein "y" zu stoßen, also warum sollte man ihm eine solche zentrale Position auf der Tastatur geben? "Z" ist üblicher, und wenn es nur wegen des "tz" Digraphen ist. Two sentences saying the same in both languages. English: 3 "y" and 0 "z" outside quotes. German: 0 "y" and 2 "z" outside quotes.
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    - jacobush 7y ago
      Ah, das ist Richtich - ich habe nicht "y" sehen viele Gange/Hären in Deutsche texten ... Alle Germanischer Sprachen verstehe ich am bisschen :-P omg that was very, very bad... sorry for butchering the language but it was fun :-D :-D
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  - benj111 7y ago
    Now, if you'd have finished your message 'ZZZZ?', that would have been funny. :P
- rjsw 7y ago
  It isn't a UK layout.
  - jplayer01 7y ago
    It isn't? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_American_keyboards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_American_keyboards It even has the Alt Gr. I wish they'd just show the actual keyboard top-down instead of these weird angles. Even the one picture where they compare the ANSI and ISO layouts is a picture of two notebooks from a side angle ... like why? https://www.pine64.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/PInebookPro_ANSIISO.png https://www.pine64.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/PInebookPr...
    - stordoff 7y ago
      Pre-production, but their blog has a top-down shot of the ISO keyboard: https://www.pine64.org/2019/05/06/may-2019-news/ https://www.pine64.org/2019/05/06/may-2019-news/
      - jplayer01 7y ago
        There we go, thanks.
  - stordoff 7y ago
    Other than Delete instead of Right-Ctrl, it looks like a UK layout to me: https://www.pine64.org/2019/05/06/may-2019-news/ https://www.pine64.org/2019/05/06/may-2019-news/

aidenn0 7y ago

That keyboard is an ISO standard. Their recent blog articles have indicated they will be offering an ANSI layout[1] once they find appropriate hardware. 1:https://www.pine64.org/2019/06/06/june-2019-news-pinephone-pinebook-pro-and-pinetab/ https://www.pine64.org/2019/06/06/june-2019-news-pinephone-p...

dmix 7y ago
ISO looks like a Macbook keyboard. Haven't seen a laptop like the ANSI one before in a long time.
- aidenn0 7y ago
  What country are you in? My macbook keyboard definitely doesn't look like the ISO one (the ISO one is the one with the L shaped return key).
  - dmix 7y ago
    Oh apologies I mean ANSI then. The caption on the picture in the above article says "ANSI and ISO Keyboard Variants" which I assumed was left ANSI/right ISO, but it's reversed I guess. https://www.pine64.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/PInebookPro_ANSIISO.png https://www.pine64.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/PInebookPr...

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