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But it doesn't matter; the Russian government is very selective about how it applies the "right to self-determination". That's the crux of the issue I think. T
by lacampbell 7y ago
But it doesn't matter; the Russian government is very selective about how it applies the "right to self-determination".
That's the crux of the issue I think. To be consistent you would surely have to support both Chechnya and Crimea having the right to self-determination - or neither having the right to self-determination.
EDIT: So let me ask you - do you support both, or neither?
- my_first_acct 7y agoAre you asking me? I would find it hard to be consistent: Kosovo, Abkhazia, Palestine, Chechnya, Crimea, so many choices to make, so many fine differences, so much tangled history. I do (retrospectively) support the US decision in 1861 to prevent the Confederate states from seceding, despite the expressed will of the white, property-owning part of the local population, so there's that.
- lacampbell 7y agoSounds like you pick and choose based on how much you like the ethnic group in question - which is exactly why Russia supports it for Crimea but not for Chechnya. Ethnic conflicts aren't soccer matches where you should pick a team to support.
- my_first_acct 7y agoIn this discussion, I've explicitly (and quite off topic) expressed support for the Union side in the US Civil War, and I've implicitly supported Ukraine's side in the Crimean dispute. I don't think that gives you enough data points to deduce whether I choose sides on the basis of ethnicity, or because of a liking for the letter U, or (most probable?) a curmudgeonly dislike of change.
- gdy 7y agoTo be consistent you would surely have to condemn the US and EU for not imposing sanctions on the Chechnya.