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Only problem with your theory is that the number of fully-embargoed countries by the US has decreased over the last 20 years, and all of the still-embargoed cou

Only problem with your theory is that the number of fully-embargoed countries by the US has decreased over the last 20 years, and all of the still-embargoed countries except for Crimea have been on the list for longer than 20 years.

jessaustin 7y ago
We started the sanctions on Venezuela in 2014. Why bother posting such obvious nonsense?
- ralph84 7y ago
  Venezuela is not fully-embargoed. The fully-embargoed countries are Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, and Syria.
  - jessaustin 7y ago
    This is quibbling over terminology. Venezuela is in a deep depression caused by USA sanctions. Moving them from one list to another would make no difference to the daily experience of the average Venezuelan. This lawyering also completely undercuts your original "nothing to see here; move along people!" argument.
    - ralph84 7y ago
      GitHub is not blocking Venezuela. The list a country is on is more than just a matter of terminology.
      - jessaustin 7y ago
        It is just a matter of time. We've been ratcheting up the sanctions regularly, which, again, contradicts your "no problems here!" argument.
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    - 1zq 7y ago
      US sanctions worsen the already bad economic situation but to claim the problem is caused by US sanctions is extremely misleading. We were already seeing severe shortages way before the 2014 sanctions (which were placed on individuals, anyway). The reasons are too complex to put in a short snippet. Crimea and Venezuela are hard to compare. While there's the common point of having an authoritarian government, they're different in many other factors such as public support of the government, geography, pre-existing economy and timing and severity of the sanctions. Though this is very true for both, I think: > What these policies forget is a lot of general citizens don't have much choice over the regime that leads them. They are just often people doing their thing. and from the POV of the authoritarian government on the sanctioned country it makes sense to double down upon receiving sanctions because the sanctioning country(ies) don't have a bigger stick than that (unless they resort to military aggression).

jessaustin 7y ago

We started the sanctions on Venezuela in 2014. Why bother posting such obvious nonsense?

ralph84 7y ago
Venezuela is not fully-embargoed. The fully-embargoed countries are Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, and Syria.
- jessaustin 7y ago
  This is quibbling over terminology. Venezuela is in a deep depression caused by USA sanctions. Moving them from one list to another would make no difference to the daily experience of the average Venezuelan. This lawyering also completely undercuts your original "nothing to see here; move along people!" argument.
  - ralph84 7y ago
    GitHub is not blocking Venezuela. The list a country is on is more than just a matter of terminology.
    - jessaustin 7y ago
      It is just a matter of time. We've been ratcheting up the sanctions regularly, which, again, contradicts your "no problems here!" argument.
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  - 1zq 7y ago
    US sanctions worsen the already bad economic situation but to claim the problem is caused by US sanctions is extremely misleading. We were already seeing severe shortages way before the 2014 sanctions (which were placed on individuals, anyway). The reasons are too complex to put in a short snippet. Crimea and Venezuela are hard to compare. While there's the common point of having an authoritarian government, they're different in many other factors such as public support of the government, geography, pre-existing economy and timing and severity of the sanctions. Though this is very true for both, I think: > What these policies forget is a lot of general citizens don't have much choice over the regime that leads them. They are just often people doing their thing. and from the POV of the authoritarian government on the sanctioned country it makes sense to double down upon receiving sanctions because the sanctioning country(ies) don't have a bigger stick than that (unless they resort to military aggression).