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Last time I checked, Vox media isn't tied to, nor funded by the Russian government. Russia Today (RT) is.

fuzz4lyfe 7y ago
Is Fox News funded by the Russian Government? If not, does that make them ok? NPR is funded by the US government does that make everything they say untrue? Seems like it might be better to use critical thinking of work off original sources rather than trusting any media organization to do that for you.
- compuguy 7y ago
  That's what I do in general with articles. Russia Today has a pretty consistent and documented history of being a propaganda outlet for the Russian government: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)#Propaganda_claims_and_related_issues https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)#Propaganda_cla...
  - fuzz4lyfe 7y ago
    The New York Times has a documented history of being a propaganda outlet for the US government: https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2014/07/01/how-the-iraq-war-still-haunts-new-york-times/199946 https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2014/07/01/how-the-iraq-wa... Just curious do you bring that up in every time someone quotes them as well?
  - einpoklum 7y ago
    The Wikipedia article says that _critics_ of RT regard it as a propaganda outlet... which is not quite what you said. TBH though, RT has a bunch of Russian-angle propaganda in some of its shows. Those are mostly the shows hosted by actual Russians, or with Russian/living-in-Russia panelists; and their newscasts. Other shows, particularly those by non-Russian journalists/creators, aren't like that. Of course, it is a Russian state entity which selects which people and shows get to be on the network. It seems to me like the main influence on the non-Russian shows is that they refrain from covering or referring to internal Russian affairs and politics.
    - travmatt 7y ago
      Russia Today has had multiple journalists resign, citing they could not support their propaganda efforts in good conscience. One journalist resigned on air, apologizing for “whitewashing Putin's action” in downing mh17. Another resigned rather than leave the safety of the US and travel to Russian occupied Crimea. To act like these are commonplace occurrences in journalism strains credulity.
    - NeedMoreTea 7y ago
      They've just been fined by the UK broadcasting regulator for systemic and repeated bias in reporting the Novichok poisonings, and withdrawing their broadcast licence was considered.

Is Fox News funded by the Russian Government? If not, does that make them ok? NPR is funded by the US government does that make everything they say untrue? Seems like it might be better to use critical thinking of work off original sources rather than trusting any media organization to do that for you.

compuguy 7y ago
That's what I do in general with articles. Russia Today has a pretty consistent and documented history of being a propaganda outlet for the Russian government: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)#Propaganda_claims_and_related_issues https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)#Propaganda_cla...
- fuzz4lyfe 7y ago
  The New York Times has a documented history of being a propaganda outlet for the US government: https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2014/07/01/how-the-iraq-war-still-haunts-new-york-times/199946 https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2014/07/01/how-the-iraq-wa... Just curious do you bring that up in every time someone quotes them as well?
- einpoklum 7y ago
  The Wikipedia article says that _critics_ of RT regard it as a propaganda outlet... which is not quite what you said. TBH though, RT has a bunch of Russian-angle propaganda in some of its shows. Those are mostly the shows hosted by actual Russians, or with Russian/living-in-Russia panelists; and their newscasts. Other shows, particularly those by non-Russian journalists/creators, aren't like that. Of course, it is a Russian state entity which selects which people and shows get to be on the network. It seems to me like the main influence on the non-Russian shows is that they refrain from covering or referring to internal Russian affairs and politics.
  - travmatt 7y ago
    Russia Today has had multiple journalists resign, citing they could not support their propaganda efforts in good conscience. One journalist resigned on air, apologizing for “whitewashing Putin's action” in downing mh17. Another resigned rather than leave the safety of the US and travel to Russian occupied Crimea. To act like these are commonplace occurrences in journalism strains credulity.
  - NeedMoreTea 7y ago
    They've just been fined by the UK broadcasting regulator for systemic and repeated bias in reporting the Novichok poisonings, and withdrawing their broadcast licence was considered.