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thats the (ingenuity?) of this whole digital realm media: youtube/instagram are by far the easiest ways to reach kids with the most effective ways to influence

thats the (ingenuity?) of this whole digital realm media: youtube/instagram are by far the easiest ways to reach kids with the most effective ways to influence kids/teens being influencers. see: JUUL marketing flavoured nicotine to highschoolers gaming: loot boxes. comesetics, using kid friendly youtuber/streamers to sell FOMO; and then we get to game passes it's disgusting how effective its been and how frankly retarded government has been to recognize the laws they made for television arent effective since kids dont watch TV

TeMPOraL 7y ago
But then when regulators finally realize what's going on, there's weeping and gnashing of teeth, and "would someone think of the poor startups?". The wild-west Internet was fine at the beginning, but then the marketing people came and fucked it up.
- Nadya 7y ago
  That's because marketers ruin everything. It's what they do. Anywhere peoples' attention goes - marketers will be there to ruin it. Mail, radio, television, internet, email, social media... If a bunch of eyes and ears are focused on it you can bet that marketers will be moving to stand between the two and try and get their message seen or heard. The entire point of marketing is to steal your attention from whatever it is that has your attention so that they have your attention. It's insidious at best and most marketing is manipulative (especially emotionally manipulative).
- hi5eyes 7y ago
  Agreed, I'd say the period just before the internet really became mainstream/gained significant scale was the peak but then I sound like some dusty old hipster. communities are always great when its being built and enjoyed; just before the next, bigger audience jumps on and the mods really have to step in and ruin the original community.. sigh eternal september forever
  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    The period just after the Internet became mainstream was still fine, too. Banner ads were slowly infecting websites, but that's about it. But now all the easy money has run dry, so every overt ad is tracking you, every mainstream news platform is dealing you covert ads, and communities (whether old-school forums or modern social media) are being infiltrated by marketers.
hi5eyes 7y ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/health/juul-teens-vaping.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/health/juul-teens-vaping.... Juul Targeted Schools, Camps and Youth Programs, House Panel Claims https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAa5B71WwAAwhOf?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAa5B71WwAAwhOf?format=jpg&name=...

TeMPOraL 7y ago

But then when regulators finally realize what's going on, there's weeping and gnashing of teeth, and "would someone think of the poor startups?". The wild-west Internet was fine at the beginning, but then the marketing people came and fucked it up.

Nadya 7y ago
That's because marketers ruin everything. It's what they do. Anywhere peoples' attention goes - marketers will be there to ruin it. Mail, radio, television, internet, email, social media... If a bunch of eyes and ears are focused on it you can bet that marketers will be moving to stand between the two and try and get their message seen or heard. The entire point of marketing is to steal your attention from whatever it is that has your attention so that they have your attention. It's insidious at best and most marketing is manipulative (especially emotionally manipulative).
hi5eyes 7y ago
Agreed, I'd say the period just before the internet really became mainstream/gained significant scale was the peak but then I sound like some dusty old hipster. communities are always great when its being built and enjoyed; just before the next, bigger audience jumps on and the mods really have to step in and ruin the original community.. sigh eternal september forever
- TeMPOraL 7y ago
  The period just after the Internet became mainstream was still fine, too. Banner ads were slowly infecting websites, but that's about it. But now all the easy money has run dry, so every overt ad is tracking you, every mainstream news platform is dealing you covert ads, and communities (whether old-school forums or modern social media) are being infiltrated by marketers.

hi5eyes 7y ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/health/juul-teens-vaping.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/health/juul-teens-vaping.... Juul Targeted Schools, Camps and Youth Programs, House Panel Claims https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAa5B71WwAAwhOf?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAa5B71WwAAwhOf?format=jpg&name=...