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1) Neither vegans nor meat eaters want to be tricked. But are we to conclude that some vendors just don't care which customers they trick? 2) It wouldn't be we

1) Neither vegans nor meat eaters want to be tricked. But are we to conclude that some vendors just don't care which customers they trick? 2) It wouldn't be weird, though it might be hard, to create a regulation that says, "'veggie burger' means burger made without meat". What would be hard is getting restaurants to stop acting like they have to trick customers into buying food they wouldn't voluntarily buy, like vegetarian burger == beef-based burger accompanied by vegetables, or as legend has it, mahi mahi that turns out to be dolphin fish (has gills) but people think it's the air-breathing, womb-having, mammal dolphin.

elliekelly 7y ago
> It wouldn't be weird, though it might be hard, to create a regulation that says, "'veggie burger' means burger made without meat". This reminds me of the time I tried to Google the difference between jam, jelly, and marmalade and wound up on the FDA website. After reading the "Requirements for Specific Standardized Fruit Butters, Jellies, Preserves, and Related Products"[1] I'm of the opinion that these sorts of regulations end up costing the government a lot of money and do absolutely nothing to clear up consumer confusion in the market. I'd even go so far as to guess it causes more confusion. For example, I've Googled "the difference between jam, jelly, and marmalade" twice now and I still don't really know the answer. [1] https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfCFR/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=150.160 https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfCFR/CFR...
- grawprog 7y ago
  I know you were making a point about food regulations, but in case you were actually wondering about the difference, this is what i've always known. https://www.mrswages.com/the-difference-between-a-jelly-jam-chutney-marmalade-and-fruit-butter/ https://www.mrswages.com/the-difference-between-a-jelly-jam-... >Jellies are made from fruit juice and sugar, most are cooked but there are some recipes for jellies that are refrigerated without cooking. Jellies are clear and should hold their shape yet be tender. The flavor should be a good fruit flavor with the right amount of sweetness. >Jams are made by crushing fruit with sugar. Jams are usually thick and sweet but not as firm as jelly. Jams should be spreadable. Preserves, on the other hand, use whole small fruits or pieces of fruit in a gelled syrup. The pieces of fruit should be transparent to clear and the color should be characteristic of the fruit from which it is made. >Conserves are a lot like jam but are made from combining fruit and sometimes raisins, nuts, and coconut. >Marmalades are usually made of citrus fruits and contain pieces of the peel suspended in a transparent jelly. >Fruit butter utilizes the pulp of the fruit, cooked with sugar into a thick spreadable mixture. Many fruit butters are enhanced by adding spices to them. >Fruit honey and syrup are made when fruit juice and sugar is cooked to a thickened consistency that can be poured.

elliekelly 7y ago

> It wouldn't be weird, though it might be hard, to create a regulation that says, "'veggie burger' means burger made without meat". This reminds me of the time I tried to Google the difference between jam, jelly, and marmalade and wound up on the FDA website. After reading the "Requirements for Specific Standardized Fruit Butters, Jellies, Preserves, and Related Products"[1] I'm of the opinion that these sorts of regulations end up costing the government a lot of money and do absolutely nothing to clear up consumer confusion in the market. I'd even go so far as to guess it causes more confusion. For example, I've Googled "the difference between jam, jelly, and marmalade" twice now and I still don't really know the answer. [1] https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfCFR/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=150.160 https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfCFR/CFR...

grawprog 7y ago
I know you were making a point about food regulations, but in case you were actually wondering about the difference, this is what i've always known. https://www.mrswages.com/the-difference-between-a-jelly-jam-chutney-marmalade-and-fruit-butter/ https://www.mrswages.com/the-difference-between-a-jelly-jam-... >Jellies are made from fruit juice and sugar, most are cooked but there are some recipes for jellies that are refrigerated without cooking. Jellies are clear and should hold their shape yet be tender. The flavor should be a good fruit flavor with the right amount of sweetness. >Jams are made by crushing fruit with sugar. Jams are usually thick and sweet but not as firm as jelly. Jams should be spreadable. Preserves, on the other hand, use whole small fruits or pieces of fruit in a gelled syrup. The pieces of fruit should be transparent to clear and the color should be characteristic of the fruit from which it is made. >Conserves are a lot like jam but are made from combining fruit and sometimes raisins, nuts, and coconut. >Marmalades are usually made of citrus fruits and contain pieces of the peel suspended in a transparent jelly. >Fruit butter utilizes the pulp of the fruit, cooked with sugar into a thick spreadable mixture. Many fruit butters are enhanced by adding spices to them. >Fruit honey and syrup are made when fruit juice and sugar is cooked to a thickened consistency that can be poured.