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So in america, if something is on my private property, it becomes mine? It sounds like the only reason they can hold the scooters "ransom" is because they were

by van2z 7y ago

So in america, if something is on my private property, it becomes mine? It sounds like the only reason they can hold the scooters "ransom" is because they were found on private property.

Terr_ 7y ago
> So in america, if something is on my private property, it becomes mine? No, I think the argument is the same as with a car being impounded: 1. You left shit on my property. 2. It's still yours, but I had to move it off my property. 3. The problem you created has cost me money. 4. You need to reimburse me. I'll hold onto the item for collateral.
GhostVII 7y ago
Even if it is on private property, that doesn't mean you can take it. If you park on someone else's driveway, they don't get to take your car.
- t0mas88 7y ago
  But they do get to have it towed from their property, and you pay the fees for that right?
  - GhostVII 7y ago
    If the police tow it, I'm sure the owner of the car would have to pay the fees. If the property owner tows it, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't (although it may vary by state). At least in Toronto, you are allowed to tow a car from your property, but not charge the owner for the tow [1]. [1] https://www.toronto.ca/311/knowledgebase/kb/docs/articles/municipal-licensing-and-standards/business-licensing-and-regulatory-services/licensing-services/vehicles-towed-from-private-property-towing-fees.html https://www.toronto.ca/311/knowledgebase/kb/docs/articles/mu...
    - observer12 7y ago
      San Diego typically the owner of the vehicle pays the fees when its towed from private property not the owner of the property. It seems the lawsuit is based around considering the fees are higher than legally allowed. https://www.sandiego.gov/sites/default/files/legacy/cityattorney/pdf/cepunewsapril10.pdf https://www.sandiego.gov/sites/default/files/legacy/cityatto...
    - theandrewbailey 7y ago
      ...unless the property owner has posted signs with the law.
      - GhostVII 7y ago
        It says if they have posted signs with the law, they can contact the police to issue a ticket (and tow, presumably). The formatting is a bit messed up, but you are required to both have the signs, and contact the police, you can't just tow it without calling the police, and require the owner to pay for the tow.
        tracker1 7y ago
        Depends on the city in question.
        querulous 7y ago
        typically, the requirement is that you register the tow with the police (after the fact), not that you ask their permission before you tow
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by van2z 7y ago

So in america, if something is on my private property, it becomes mine? It sounds like the only reason they can hold the scooters "ransom" is because they were found on private property.

Terr_ 7y ago

> So in america, if something is on my private property, it becomes mine? No, I think the argument is the same as with a car being impounded: 1. You left shit on my property. 2. It's still yours, but I had to move it off my property. 3. The problem you created has cost me money. 4. You need to reimburse me. I'll hold onto the item for collateral.

GhostVII 7y ago

Even if it is on private property, that doesn't mean you can take it. If you park on someone else's driveway, they don't get to take your car.

t0mas88 7y ago
But they do get to have it towed from their property, and you pay the fees for that right?
- GhostVII 7y ago
  If the police tow it, I'm sure the owner of the car would have to pay the fees. If the property owner tows it, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't (although it may vary by state). At least in Toronto, you are allowed to tow a car from your property, but not charge the owner for the tow [1]. [1] https://www.toronto.ca/311/knowledgebase/kb/docs/articles/municipal-licensing-and-standards/business-licensing-and-regulatory-services/licensing-services/vehicles-towed-from-private-property-towing-fees.html https://www.toronto.ca/311/knowledgebase/kb/docs/articles/mu...
  - observer12 7y ago
    San Diego typically the owner of the vehicle pays the fees when its towed from private property not the owner of the property. It seems the lawsuit is based around considering the fees are higher than legally allowed. https://www.sandiego.gov/sites/default/files/legacy/cityattorney/pdf/cepunewsapril10.pdf https://www.sandiego.gov/sites/default/files/legacy/cityatto...
  - theandrewbailey 7y ago
    ...unless the property owner has posted signs with the law.
    - GhostVII 7y ago
      It says if they have posted signs with the law, they can contact the police to issue a ticket (and tow, presumably). The formatting is a bit messed up, but you are required to both have the signs, and contact the police, you can't just tow it without calling the police, and require the owner to pay for the tow.
      - tracker1 7y ago
        Depends on the city in question.
      - querulous 7y ago
        typically, the requirement is that you register the tow with the police (after the fact), not that you ask their permission before you tow
  - deleted 7y ago
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