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I was thinking today how when I was a kid and watched TV at least there was some sort of oversight about what could be broadcast and advertised on TV, especiall

I was thinking today how when I was a kid and watched TV at least there was some sort of oversight about what could be broadcast and advertised on TV, especially to children. There is no such thing on youtube or the internet, so people that let their small child loose on a tablet as a babysitter scare the bejeezus out of me.

hi5eyes 7y ago
thats the (ingenuity?) of this whole digital realm media: youtube/instagram are by far the easiest ways to reach kids with the most effective ways to influence kids/teens being influencers. see: JUUL marketing flavoured nicotine to highschoolers gaming: loot boxes. comesetics, using kid friendly youtuber/streamers to sell FOMO; and then we get to game passes it's disgusting how effective its been and how frankly retarded government has been to recognize the laws they made for television arent effective since kids dont watch TV
- TeMPOraL 7y ago
  But then when regulators finally realize what's going on, there's weeping and gnashing of teeth, and "would someone think of the poor startups?". The wild-west Internet was fine at the beginning, but then the marketing people came and fucked it up.
  - Nadya 7y ago
    That's because marketers ruin everything. It's what they do. Anywhere peoples' attention goes - marketers will be there to ruin it. Mail, radio, television, internet, email, social media... If a bunch of eyes and ears are focused on it you can bet that marketers will be moving to stand between the two and try and get their message seen or heard. The entire point of marketing is to steal your attention from whatever it is that has your attention so that they have your attention. It's insidious at best and most marketing is manipulative (especially emotionally manipulative).
  - hi5eyes 7y ago
    Agreed, I'd say the period just before the internet really became mainstream/gained significant scale was the peak but then I sound like some dusty old hipster. communities are always great when its being built and enjoyed; just before the next, bigger audience jumps on and the mods really have to step in and ruin the original community.. sigh eternal september forever
    - TeMPOraL 7y ago
      The period just after the Internet became mainstream was still fine, too. Banner ads were slowly infecting websites, but that's about it. But now all the easy money has run dry, so every overt ad is tracking you, every mainstream news platform is dealing you covert ads, and communities (whether old-school forums or modern social media) are being infiltrated by marketers.
- hi5eyes 7y ago
  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/health/juul-teens-vaping.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/health/juul-teens-vaping.... Juul Targeted Schools, Camps and Youth Programs, House Panel Claims https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAa5B71WwAAwhOf?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAa5B71WwAAwhOf?format=jpg&name=...
kalleboo 7y ago
This is why I don't let my kid watch YouTube. She gets Hulu Kids, which is high-value, curated, "normal" kids shows. Amazon Prime also has a kids section, I imagine Netflix is the same. I don't understand why more parents don't restrict their kids to these but let them loose on YouTube instead.

hi5eyes 7y ago

thats the (ingenuity?) of this whole digital realm media: youtube/instagram are by far the easiest ways to reach kids with the most effective ways to influence kids/teens being influencers. see: JUUL marketing flavoured nicotine to highschoolers gaming: loot boxes. comesetics, using kid friendly youtuber/streamers to sell FOMO; and then we get to game passes it's disgusting how effective its been and how frankly retarded government has been to recognize the laws they made for television arent effective since kids dont watch TV

TeMPOraL 7y ago
But then when regulators finally realize what's going on, there's weeping and gnashing of teeth, and "would someone think of the poor startups?". The wild-west Internet was fine at the beginning, but then the marketing people came and fucked it up.
- Nadya 7y ago
  That's because marketers ruin everything. It's what they do. Anywhere peoples' attention goes - marketers will be there to ruin it. Mail, radio, television, internet, email, social media... If a bunch of eyes and ears are focused on it you can bet that marketers will be moving to stand between the two and try and get their message seen or heard. The entire point of marketing is to steal your attention from whatever it is that has your attention so that they have your attention. It's insidious at best and most marketing is manipulative (especially emotionally manipulative).
- hi5eyes 7y ago
  Agreed, I'd say the period just before the internet really became mainstream/gained significant scale was the peak but then I sound like some dusty old hipster. communities are always great when its being built and enjoyed; just before the next, bigger audience jumps on and the mods really have to step in and ruin the original community.. sigh eternal september forever
  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    The period just after the Internet became mainstream was still fine, too. Banner ads were slowly infecting websites, but that's about it. But now all the easy money has run dry, so every overt ad is tracking you, every mainstream news platform is dealing you covert ads, and communities (whether old-school forums or modern social media) are being infiltrated by marketers.
hi5eyes 7y ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/health/juul-teens-vaping.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/health/juul-teens-vaping.... Juul Targeted Schools, Camps and Youth Programs, House Panel Claims https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAa5B71WwAAwhOf?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAa5B71WwAAwhOf?format=jpg&name=...

kalleboo 7y ago

This is why I don't let my kid watch YouTube. She gets Hulu Kids, which is high-value, curated, "normal" kids shows. Amazon Prime also has a kids section, I imagine Netflix is the same. I don't understand why more parents don't restrict their kids to these but let them loose on YouTube instead.