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Homes here in the Netherlands rarely have airco and many friends have no airco at work either. (Luckily I have at work but not at home) Today for the first time

Homes here in the Netherlands rarely have airco and many friends have no airco at work either. (Luckily I have at work but not at home) Today for the first time measured we had temperatures above 40 degrees Celsius. Last summer we had a drought that made all grass fields look yellow and many trees losing branches and bark. They say with changing climate the current types of trees won’t survive. We are again low on water as farmers cannot use water from the canals. This is becoming the new normal...

ced 7y ago
This is becoming the new normal... It won't stay normal for long... https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/styles/large/public/2017-04/fossil_fuels_1.png https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/styles/large/publ...
0xDEFC0DE 7y ago
Time to buy some air conditioning stocks
- aphextim 7y ago
  Or start a HVAC company that specialized in AC unit installation/maintenance.
  - jacquesm 7y ago
    Heatpumps are better.
    - jonny_eh 7y ago
      Depends on the cost of electricity vs natural gas in your area.
    - aidenn0 7y ago
      I'm curious what you mean by this. A typical AC in the US is a compressor based heat-pump, though the term "heat pump" is colloquially used to describe a compressor based heat-pump used to heat, rather than cool, a building. Lastly the term HVAC is a catchall that includes heat pumps.
      - GoToRO 7y ago
        Here it means it can cool and heat, typical AC would only cool.
      - jacquesm 7y ago
        I don't live in the US and we don't use the term HVAC here. I'm aware of the difference between the colloquial use of the word 'heat-pump' and the technical one, on the off chance that you really did not understand me I meant the ones where you use an in-ground heat source or sink to cool or heat a building by the movement of a working fluid. The basic idea is that such a device can save you money because it does not need the same amount of energy that you would be using in a more traditional heating and cooling setup.
        aidenn0 7y ago
        > I'm aware of the difference between the colloquial use of the word 'heat-pump' and the technical one, on the off chance that you really did not understand me I meant the ones where you use an in-ground heat source or sink to cool or heat a building by the movement of a working fluid. I really did not understand you, thanks for clarifying. I've heard of below-ground heat-pumps but have yet to see one in real life. A friend of mine who lives in a less temperate part of the US investigated it, but it was too long of a payback time due to the much increased installation costs.
        jacquesm 7y ago
        Here in NL we heat homes typically by burning natural gas. The natural gas reserves are not nearly depleted but the reservoirs are collapsing causing earth quakes that damage houses built on/near the gas fields. This has led to a huge push for alternative ways to heat homes, and one of the few feasible ones for many reasons is heat pumps. So there are quite a few of them deployed and there is talk of subsidies or subsidized loans for people that want to install one. The goal is to stop building new houses connected to the gas infrastructure soon.
        7y ago
    - raverbashing 7y ago
      An AC (and a Fridge) are all heatpumps (in the broad sense) The issue is that most ACs (for hot weather places) are built to not allow the reverse cycle. But several models do allow cooling (pumping heat out) and also heating (pumping heat in)
    - greedo 7y ago
      Perhaps from a utility's perspective, but as a consumer I hate mine.
MrGilbert 7y ago
Same in Germany - we have an intern from Tunesia, and he told us that it's quite usual for every home there to have an AC. He says he usually switches it on at 19°C. Also, regarding the drought: If I remember correct, the soil hasn't yet recovered from the 2018 drought, at least here in Germany.
yread 7y ago
> I have at work but not at home same here, I think I'll sleep over at work today

ced 7y ago

This is becoming the new normal... It won't stay normal for long... https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/styles/large/public/2017-04/fossil_fuels_1.png https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/styles/large/publ...

0xDEFC0DE 7y ago

Time to buy some air conditioning stocks

aphextim 7y ago
Or start a HVAC company that specialized in AC unit installation/maintenance.
- jacquesm 7y ago
  Heatpumps are better.
  - jonny_eh 7y ago
    Depends on the cost of electricity vs natural gas in your area.
  - aidenn0 7y ago
    I'm curious what you mean by this. A typical AC in the US is a compressor based heat-pump, though the term "heat pump" is colloquially used to describe a compressor based heat-pump used to heat, rather than cool, a building. Lastly the term HVAC is a catchall that includes heat pumps.
    - GoToRO 7y ago
      Here it means it can cool and heat, typical AC would only cool.
    - jacquesm 7y ago
      I don't live in the US and we don't use the term HVAC here. I'm aware of the difference between the colloquial use of the word 'heat-pump' and the technical one, on the off chance that you really did not understand me I meant the ones where you use an in-ground heat source or sink to cool or heat a building by the movement of a working fluid. The basic idea is that such a device can save you money because it does not need the same amount of energy that you would be using in a more traditional heating and cooling setup.
      - aidenn0 7y ago
        > I'm aware of the difference between the colloquial use of the word 'heat-pump' and the technical one, on the off chance that you really did not understand me I meant the ones where you use an in-ground heat source or sink to cool or heat a building by the movement of a working fluid. I really did not understand you, thanks for clarifying. I've heard of below-ground heat-pumps but have yet to see one in real life. A friend of mine who lives in a less temperate part of the US investigated it, but it was too long of a payback time due to the much increased installation costs.
        jacquesm 7y ago
        Here in NL we heat homes typically by burning natural gas. The natural gas reserves are not nearly depleted but the reservoirs are collapsing causing earth quakes that damage houses built on/near the gas fields. This has led to a huge push for alternative ways to heat homes, and one of the few feasible ones for many reasons is heat pumps. So there are quite a few of them deployed and there is talk of subsidies or subsidized loans for people that want to install one. The goal is to stop building new houses connected to the gas infrastructure soon.
        7y ago
  - raverbashing 7y ago
    An AC (and a Fridge) are all heatpumps (in the broad sense) The issue is that most ACs (for hot weather places) are built to not allow the reverse cycle. But several models do allow cooling (pumping heat out) and also heating (pumping heat in)
  - greedo 7y ago
    Perhaps from a utility's perspective, but as a consumer I hate mine.

MrGilbert 7y ago

Same in Germany - we have an intern from Tunesia, and he told us that it's quite usual for every home there to have an AC. He says he usually switches it on at 19°C. Also, regarding the drought: If I remember correct, the soil hasn't yet recovered from the 2018 drought, at least here in Germany.

yread 7y ago

> I have at work but not at home same here, I think I'll sleep over at work today