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They say that the licensing costs increased by "by more than a factor of ten". Given that figure, do you really think that one-time project implementation and

They say that the licensing costs increased by "by more than a factor of ten". Given that figure, do you really think that one-time project implementation and switching costs amortized over the next X years + ongoing support would really come to more than 10x? How do you make such a strong claim that easily, any prior examples? Not saying you're obviously wrong or that CERN is obviously right, but this seems to be a much harder call (and intuitively feels right in fact), given the number.

cwyers 7y ago
There was a push in Germany to migrate to Linux, and they eventually gave up on that, so yeah, there are some prior examples. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/end-of-an-open-source-era-linux-pioneer-munich-confirms-switch-to-windows-10/ https://www.techrepublic.com/article/end-of-an-open-source-e... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/07/27/lower_saxony_to_dump_linux/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/07/27/lower_saxony_to_dum...
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- chappi42 7y ago
  Politics, bureaucracy, incompetence. Munich wasted a lot of money. Edit: here [1] is a good article (unfortunately in German) about the reasons. [1]: https://www.golem.de/news/limux-die-tragische-geschichte-eines-leuchtturm-projekts-1702-126230.html https://www.golem.de/news/limux-die-tragische-geschichte-ein...
- tasuki 7y ago
  Do you know why they gave up? Did Linux not work for them? Or were they persuaded by the MS sales team?
  - fock 7y ago
    I guess it's a little bit of both. First mistake they made was that they tasked local contractors (think O(1) people) with forking their very own linux distro from Ubuntu. Then they put a lot of ressources into the KDE3-fork which was made to look like Windows NT (because they were migrating from that in 200x and you know the secretaries for life...). In the end they wondered why all their application software was old and buggy and I suppose from the whole project there was no significant contract work upstreamed (think LO performance patches...). Also being 1% of the market apparently does not entice any competition in the public software (think access-frontends in VB6@1000€s per place) market. Given this, some years ago, the mayor changed, Accenture did a 'cost' study and MS moved its german HQ to the city.
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cwyers 7y ago

There was a push in Germany to migrate to Linux, and they eventually gave up on that, so yeah, there are some prior examples. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/end-of-an-open-source-era-linux-pioneer-munich-confirms-switch-to-windows-10/ https://www.techrepublic.com/article/end-of-an-open-source-e... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/07/27/lower_saxony_to_dump_linux/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/07/27/lower_saxony_to_dum...

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chappi42 7y ago
Politics, bureaucracy, incompetence. Munich wasted a lot of money. Edit: here [1] is a good article (unfortunately in German) about the reasons. [1]: https://www.golem.de/news/limux-die-tragische-geschichte-eines-leuchtturm-projekts-1702-126230.html https://www.golem.de/news/limux-die-tragische-geschichte-ein...
tasuki 7y ago
Do you know why they gave up? Did Linux not work for them? Or were they persuaded by the MS sales team?
- fock 7y ago
  I guess it's a little bit of both. First mistake they made was that they tasked local contractors (think O(1) people) with forking their very own linux distro from Ubuntu. Then they put a lot of ressources into the KDE3-fork which was made to look like Windows NT (because they were migrating from that in 200x and you know the secretaries for life...). In the end they wondered why all their application software was old and buggy and I suppose from the whole project there was no significant contract work upstreamed (think LO performance patches...). Also being 1% of the market apparently does not entice any competition in the public software (think access-frontends in VB6@1000€s per place) market. Given this, some years ago, the mayor changed, Accenture did a 'cost' study and MS moved its german HQ to the city.
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