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>There are a lot more limitations and checks on what the US can do If only those "limitations and checks" were actually followed by the US government and intel
by okmokmz 7y ago
>There are a lot more limitations and checks on what the US can do
If only those "limitations and checks" were actually followed by the US government and intelligence agencies. Here are some examples I collected during a previous discussion of US vs China surveillance states
https://www.aclu.org/issues/national-security/privacy-and-surveillance/nsa-surveillance https://www.aclu.org/issues/national-security/privacy-and-su...
https://theintercept.com/2018/06/25/att-internet-nsa-spy-hubs/ https://theintercept.com/2018/06/25/att-internet-nsa-spy-hub...
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/national-id-hr4760-biometrics/ http://thefreethoughtproject.com/national-id-hr4760-biometri...
https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/26/16932350/ice-immigration-customs-license-plate-recognition-contract-vigilant-solutions https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/26/16932350/ice-immigration-...
https://theintercept.com/2018/01/19/voice-recognition-technology-nsa/ https://theintercept.com/2018/01/19/voice-recognition-techno...
https://www.zdnet.com/article/us-cell-carriers-selling-access-to-real-time-location-data/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/us-cell-carriers-selling-acces...
https://theintercept.com/2018/06/25/att-internet-nsa-spy-hubs/ https://theintercept.com/2018/06/25/att-internet-nsa-spy-hub...
https://freedom.press/news/revealed-justice-depts-secret-rules-targeting-journalists-fisa-court-orders/ https://freedom.press/news/revealed-justice-depts-secret-rul...
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying
https://www.eff.org/cases/first-unitarian-church-los-angeles-v-nsa https://www.eff.org/cases/first-unitarian-church-los-angeles...
https://www.eff.org/cases/jewel https://www.eff.org/cases/jewel
https://www.eff.org/cases/hepting https://www.eff.org/cases/hepting
https://www.eff.org/cases/smith-v-obama https://www.eff.org/cases/smith-v-obama
https://apnews.com/d69a8e6db867477795f4152d0511bbf9 https://apnews.com/d69a8e6db867477795f4152d0511bbf9
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-security-records-factbox/factbox-history-of-mass-surveillance-in-the-united-states-idUSBRE95617O20130607 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-security-records-fact...
>Because there not beyond imprisoning or killing people over information gained
The US government also certainly uses the information gained to kill and/or imprison people, although you could perhaps argue that the scale is not the same
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/inside-the-cias-kill-list/ https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/inside-the-cias-k...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/oct/09/cia-torture-black-site-enhanced-interrogation https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/oct/...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.dc5b7bd3682e https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_term=.dc5b7bd3682e
>we have no reason to believe the US had implemented backdoors in major processors.
There is evidence that US intelligence agencies have backdoored products in the past. Personally, that's reason enough to believe that they may have backdoored processors as well
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-upgrade-factory-show-cisco-router-getting-implant/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa...
https://www.infoworld.com/article/2608141/snowden--the-nsa-planted-backdoors-in-cisco-products.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2608141/snowden--the-nsa-p...
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/519661/nsas-own-hardware-backdoors-may-still-be-a-problem-from-hell/ https://www.technologyreview.com/s/519661/nsas-own-hardware-...