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I don't know why anyone would put up with this nonsense. The market for tech is amazing right now and has been for years. It's inexcusable that anyone worth t

by dev_jim 16y ago

I don't know why anyone would put up with this nonsense. The market for tech is amazing right now and has been for years. It's inexcusable that anyone worth their salt should feel trapped in a dead-end job.

rdrimmie 16y ago
I think imposter syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome) contributes, and a grim view of prospects combined with lack of knowledge on how to find jobs. If all you're doing is reading monster.com postings or whatever then the majority of jobs postings that are out there are terribly written and deeply discouraging.
- cake 16y ago
  Any advice on what could be better than reading monster.com ? (genuinely interested)
  - paulbaumgart 16y ago
    Meet people who are working on things that interest you and convince them that you can help.
  - kongqiu 16y ago
    Improve your skills Take on something new (even as a side project or hobby) Network Search indeed.com instead of monster.com!
  - ecounysis 16y ago
    linkedin.com
  - rdrimmie 16y ago
    Meeting people. It's not easy and it's not fast, but if you can find an interesting and relevant meetup, or user group or some-such you can start talking to people doing interesting things. Local technology associations are also good sources. I'm in Waterloo, where there are organizations like Communitech (http://communitech.ca http://communitech.ca) and Canada's Tech Triangle (http://techtriangle.com http://techtriangle.com) that offer social events and whatnot. Also, if you're really bored or motivated, you can go through their membership lists checking out all the companies in the area and see if they're doing interesting things. Look for Camp events in your area too. DemoCamps, StartupCamps, BarCamps, FooCamps, yadda yadda.
- ben1040 16y ago
  I had no idea "impostor syndrome" had a name. Every day, I go into work thinking I'm just waiting to be fired for incompetence, just as soon as they discover it. Meanwhile people continue to point out how productive I am, but I don't seem to believe a word of it.
rwmj 16y ago
The article is little more than spam, so presumably this is getting pushed up in order to sell advertising.
yannickt 16y ago
People often stay to build up their fuck you fund, and to prepare their exit. Finding the right job can be a long process. And even when you find it, taking it is not necessarily the right decision. If you're married and you have kids, for example, that Apple offer might not be a no-brainer if you have to move to a new city. Also, once they've been burned by a shitty corporation, people can become very picky on the job hunt.
cookiecaper 16y ago
There's a lot to these things. And also, the tech market for real, salaried jobs often depends on locality; the market in Kansas City (almost exclusively corporate IT staff with a handful of generic chop-shops) is not as good as the market in Salt Lake City (a lot of corporate stuff a la KC, but many more tech-specific companies using not-Java out there), and that is not as good as the market in San Francisco.

by dev_jim 16y ago

rdrimmie 16y ago

I think imposter syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome) contributes, and a grim view of prospects combined with lack of knowledge on how to find jobs. If all you're doing is reading monster.com postings or whatever then the majority of jobs postings that are out there are terribly written and deeply discouraging.

cake 16y ago
Any advice on what could be better than reading monster.com ? (genuinely interested)
- paulbaumgart 16y ago
  Meet people who are working on things that interest you and convince them that you can help.
- kongqiu 16y ago
  Improve your skills Take on something new (even as a side project or hobby) Network Search indeed.com instead of monster.com!
- ecounysis 16y ago
  linkedin.com
- rdrimmie 16y ago
  Meeting people. It's not easy and it's not fast, but if you can find an interesting and relevant meetup, or user group or some-such you can start talking to people doing interesting things. Local technology associations are also good sources. I'm in Waterloo, where there are organizations like Communitech (http://communitech.ca http://communitech.ca) and Canada's Tech Triangle (http://techtriangle.com http://techtriangle.com) that offer social events and whatnot. Also, if you're really bored or motivated, you can go through their membership lists checking out all the companies in the area and see if they're doing interesting things. Look for Camp events in your area too. DemoCamps, StartupCamps, BarCamps, FooCamps, yadda yadda.
ben1040 16y ago
I had no idea "impostor syndrome" had a name. Every day, I go into work thinking I'm just waiting to be fired for incompetence, just as soon as they discover it. Meanwhile people continue to point out how productive I am, but I don't seem to believe a word of it.

rwmj 16y ago

The article is little more than spam, so presumably this is getting pushed up in order to sell advertising.

yannickt 16y ago

People often stay to build up their fuck you fund, and to prepare their exit. Finding the right job can be a long process. And even when you find it, taking it is not necessarily the right decision. If you're married and you have kids, for example, that Apple offer might not be a no-brainer if you have to move to a new city. Also, once they've been burned by a shitty corporation, people can become very picky on the job hunt.

cookiecaper 16y ago

There's a lot to these things. And also, the tech market for real, salaried jobs often depends on locality; the market in Kansas City (almost exclusively corporate IT staff with a handful of generic chop-shops) is not as good as the market in Salt Lake City (a lot of corporate stuff a la KC, but many more tech-specific companies using not-Java out there), and that is not as good as the market in San Francisco.