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~500lb is very much an aspiration life time goal for most trained men, even revised army fitness standard full score doesn't ask for more than 340lbs. Minimum i

~500lb is very much an aspiration life time goal for most trained men, even revised army fitness standard full score doesn't ask for more than 340lbs. Minimum is 140lbs. I think NASA / astronauts prescriptions is also a very low sub bodyweight multiplier for reps to prevent atrophy AND MITIGATE INJURY RISK in space which is key. That is probably what the general population should shoot for. On social media, the gold standard for bragging strong was 500 as little as 5 years ago, hence all the meme that 600 is the new 500 and now 700 is the new 500 everytime world records are pushed by elite athletes no one should be comparing themselves to. But for some reason a lot of lifters tend to do this even though very few people think if they train hard enough they can be faster or comparable to Usain Bolt. I think it's a unique development with the intersection of social media and lifting culture. The bell curve for strength in the population hasn't changed, but the top 0.01% are increasingly visible and it's causing a crisis in social comparison that's not healthy. I don't know if it's a unique issue only for people involved in niche powerlifitng/bodybuilding subcultures, I think it's one of those situations where memes migrate up to general fitness/resistance training enthusiasts and starts to affect casual viewers who like to compare. There's also a fair amount of people who get into lifting due to self esteem reasons.

saiya-jin 7y ago
Hmm, maybe people doing lifting should focus less on some pathetic instagrams and facebooks and more on real life, real people and real interactions
- ip26 7y ago
  An unspoken truth about lifting, imo, is that a big chunk of the group is a bit lonely & seeking social validation & attention. It's part of why they lift.
AlchemistCamp 7y ago
> ~500lb is very much an aspiration life time goal for most trained men. I think that's a bit ridiculous. I could lift nearly that untrained, albeit overweight. I'm 40. Given the option, I'd be leaner and better at running!
- dirtyid 7y ago
  BW / lean mass plays a huge part. There's a few powerlifting phenoms whose origin story is pulling 500lbs on their first try, albeit as skinny teenagers. There's people who worked on farms or have athletic backgrounds that's build a muscular base and moving to barbell is a relatively easy transition. And there's people who are genetically blessed. But I don't think that's typical. Here's the 2018 /r/powerlifting survey, even among trained people in a population dedicated to being good at deadlifing, the median deadlift is 450 for men not on gear. Relevant pic last result: https://imgur.com/a/ozbvt8W#FOOYBVB https://imgur.com/a/ozbvt8W#FOOYBVB
  - AlchemistCamp 7y ago
    Very interesting. I don't understand all the terms in those pics, but I'm taller than their median respondent and heavier (BMI ~34), so that's probably what it is. Just doing a lot of hiking, walking upstairs to the apartment, etc is "deadlift training" if you weigh enough.

saiya-jin 7y ago

Hmm, maybe people doing lifting should focus less on some pathetic instagrams and facebooks and more on real life, real people and real interactions

ip26 7y ago
An unspoken truth about lifting, imo, is that a big chunk of the group is a bit lonely & seeking social validation & attention. It's part of why they lift.

AlchemistCamp 7y ago

> ~500lb is very much an aspiration life time goal for most trained men. I think that's a bit ridiculous. I could lift nearly that untrained, albeit overweight. I'm 40. Given the option, I'd be leaner and better at running!

dirtyid 7y ago
BW / lean mass plays a huge part. There's a few powerlifting phenoms whose origin story is pulling 500lbs on their first try, albeit as skinny teenagers. There's people who worked on farms or have athletic backgrounds that's build a muscular base and moving to barbell is a relatively easy transition. And there's people who are genetically blessed. But I don't think that's typical. Here's the 2018 /r/powerlifting survey, even among trained people in a population dedicated to being good at deadlifing, the median deadlift is 450 for men not on gear. Relevant pic last result: https://imgur.com/a/ozbvt8W#FOOYBVB https://imgur.com/a/ozbvt8W#FOOYBVB
- AlchemistCamp 7y ago
  Very interesting. I don't understand all the terms in those pics, but I'm taller than their median respondent and heavier (BMI ~34), so that's probably what it is. Just doing a lot of hiking, walking upstairs to the apartment, etc is "deadlift training" if you weigh enough.