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I'm not exactly sure what you mean by 5 plate, but if you're talking about 5 x 20kg plates on either end of an olympic bar (which is another 20kg), that's a 220

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by 5 plate, but if you're talking about 5 x 20kg plates on either end of an olympic bar (which is another 20kg), that's a 220kg/495lb deadlift and is still very much a solid deadlift. For an 85kg man (average in UK is 83.6kg) that's as near as makes no odds 2.6x body weight. For a 70kg woman (average in UK in 70.2kg) it's more than 3x body weight. Generally anything more than 2x body weight is considered a solid deadlift for both men and women. Sure, not in powerlifting, but powerlifting is still pretty niche even amongst people who lift regularly. (For comparison, I weigh 97kg (14-15% body fat) and would be over the moon with a 220kg deadlift. I'm heading in the right direction but a couple of unrelated skiing injuries have prevented me from getting there... and of course, I'm getting older, so who knows.) EDIT: Corrected with ONS figures for average weights in UK.

dirtyid 7y ago
~500lb is very much an aspiration life time goal for most trained men, even revised army fitness standard full score doesn't ask for more than 340lbs. Minimum is 140lbs. I think NASA / astronauts prescriptions is also a very low sub bodyweight multiplier for reps to prevent atrophy AND MITIGATE INJURY RISK in space which is key. That is probably what the general population should shoot for. On social media, the gold standard for bragging strong was 500 as little as 5 years ago, hence all the meme that 600 is the new 500 and now 700 is the new 500 everytime world records are pushed by elite athletes no one should be comparing themselves to. But for some reason a lot of lifters tend to do this even though very few people think if they train hard enough they can be faster or comparable to Usain Bolt. I think it's a unique development with the intersection of social media and lifting culture. The bell curve for strength in the population hasn't changed, but the top 0.01% are increasingly visible and it's causing a crisis in social comparison that's not healthy. I don't know if it's a unique issue only for people involved in niche powerlifitng/bodybuilding subcultures, I think it's one of those situations where memes migrate up to general fitness/resistance training enthusiasts and starts to affect casual viewers who like to compare. There's also a fair amount of people who get into lifting due to self esteem reasons.
- saiya-jin 7y ago
  Hmm, maybe people doing lifting should focus less on some pathetic instagrams and facebooks and more on real life, real people and real interactions
  - ip26 7y ago
    An unspoken truth about lifting, imo, is that a big chunk of the group is a bit lonely & seeking social validation & attention. It's part of why they lift.
- AlchemistCamp 7y ago
  > ~500lb is very much an aspiration life time goal for most trained men. I think that's a bit ridiculous. I could lift nearly that untrained, albeit overweight. I'm 40. Given the option, I'd be leaner and better at running!
  - dirtyid 7y ago
    BW / lean mass plays a huge part. There's a few powerlifting phenoms whose origin story is pulling 500lbs on their first try, albeit as skinny teenagers. There's people who worked on farms or have athletic backgrounds that's build a muscular base and moving to barbell is a relatively easy transition. And there's people who are genetically blessed. But I don't think that's typical. Here's the 2018 /r/powerlifting survey, even among trained people in a population dedicated to being good at deadlifing, the median deadlift is 450 for men not on gear. Relevant pic last result: https://imgur.com/a/ozbvt8W#FOOYBVB https://imgur.com/a/ozbvt8W#FOOYBVB
    - AlchemistCamp 7y ago
      Very interesting. I don't understand all the terms in those pics, but I'm taller than their median respondent and heavier (BMI ~34), so that's probably what it is. Just doing a lot of hiking, walking upstairs to the apartment, etc is "deadlift training" if you weigh enough.
garyclarke27 7y ago
Nicely Put Eddie Hall pulled 500kg 1102 ibs Incredible video (he nearly killed himself) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Y4o_BqC0A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Y4o_BqC0A He weighs around 160 kg so a bit over 3

dirtyid 7y ago

~500lb is very much an aspiration life time goal for most trained men, even revised army fitness standard full score doesn't ask for more than 340lbs. Minimum is 140lbs. I think NASA / astronauts prescriptions is also a very low sub bodyweight multiplier for reps to prevent atrophy AND MITIGATE INJURY RISK in space which is key. That is probably what the general population should shoot for. On social media, the gold standard for bragging strong was 500 as little as 5 years ago, hence all the meme that 600 is the new 500 and now 700 is the new 500 everytime world records are pushed by elite athletes no one should be comparing themselves to. But for some reason a lot of lifters tend to do this even though very few people think if they train hard enough they can be faster or comparable to Usain Bolt. I think it's a unique development with the intersection of social media and lifting culture. The bell curve for strength in the population hasn't changed, but the top 0.01% are increasingly visible and it's causing a crisis in social comparison that's not healthy. I don't know if it's a unique issue only for people involved in niche powerlifitng/bodybuilding subcultures, I think it's one of those situations where memes migrate up to general fitness/resistance training enthusiasts and starts to affect casual viewers who like to compare. There's also a fair amount of people who get into lifting due to self esteem reasons.

saiya-jin 7y ago
Hmm, maybe people doing lifting should focus less on some pathetic instagrams and facebooks and more on real life, real people and real interactions
- ip26 7y ago
  An unspoken truth about lifting, imo, is that a big chunk of the group is a bit lonely & seeking social validation & attention. It's part of why they lift.
AlchemistCamp 7y ago
> ~500lb is very much an aspiration life time goal for most trained men. I think that's a bit ridiculous. I could lift nearly that untrained, albeit overweight. I'm 40. Given the option, I'd be leaner and better at running!
- dirtyid 7y ago
  BW / lean mass plays a huge part. There's a few powerlifting phenoms whose origin story is pulling 500lbs on their first try, albeit as skinny teenagers. There's people who worked on farms or have athletic backgrounds that's build a muscular base and moving to barbell is a relatively easy transition. And there's people who are genetically blessed. But I don't think that's typical. Here's the 2018 /r/powerlifting survey, even among trained people in a population dedicated to being good at deadlifing, the median deadlift is 450 for men not on gear. Relevant pic last result: https://imgur.com/a/ozbvt8W#FOOYBVB https://imgur.com/a/ozbvt8W#FOOYBVB
  - AlchemistCamp 7y ago
    Very interesting. I don't understand all the terms in those pics, but I'm taller than their median respondent and heavier (BMI ~34), so that's probably what it is. Just doing a lot of hiking, walking upstairs to the apartment, etc is "deadlift training" if you weigh enough.

garyclarke27 7y ago

Nicely Put Eddie Hall pulled 500kg 1102 ibs Incredible video (he nearly killed himself) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Y4o_BqC0A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Y4o_BqC0A He weighs around 160 kg so a bit over 3