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What exactly do you mean? Have you seen the new service manual? They welcome contributions from outside NHS Digital, anyone can contribute to it in theory, so

by desas 7y ago

What exactly do you mean? Have you seen the new service manual? They welcome contributions from outside NHS Digital, anyone can contribute to it in theory, so long as you can show there's a real need [1]. The NHS are doing more in-house, where it's sensible. For example the NHS Business Service Authority are building a replacement for https://www.jobs.nhs.uk https://www.jobs.nhs.uk whereas before it was basically entirely out sourced to the private sector. [0] https://beta.nhs.uk/service-manual/ https://beta.nhs.uk/service-manual/ [1] https://github.com/nhsuk/nhsuk-service-manual-backlog/blob/master/docs/CRITERIA.md https://github.com/nhsuk/nhsuk-service-manual-backlog/blob/m...

Zhyl 7y ago
Is this not what is being withdrawn? But still, just going by the link you have a list of principles: https://beta.nhs.uk/service-manual/design-principles https://beta.nhs.uk/service-manual/design-principles Which are all well and good, but are more akin to a 'vision' than technical design principles (especially with regard to preference of tradeoffs, data management, priority of platforms etc). The rest of it seems to be strongly geared towards the web. It may well be that the NHS only wants to collaborate on public-facing web services, much like GOV.UK and the Government Digital Service, but this would need to be either extended or abstracted to be applicable to, say, administrative systems.
- trnglina 7y ago
  > Is this not what is being withdrawn? What's being withdrawn is their original CUI, linked in the article [0]. From what I can tell, this is very distinct from their new digital service manual, which seems to be replacing the old CUI. > ...but this would need to be either extended or abstracted to be applicable to, say, administrative systems. Based on nothing more than a rough skim of the CUI, admittedly, it seems like the original was a very web/interface-oriented design system in the first place. A focus on web components makes sense, since administrative systems can be implemented with a web-based frontend, and web design systems can be adapted to other user interfaces, because they provide a set of baseline, expected behaviours to replicate. [0]: https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160921140920/http://systems.digital.nhs.uk/data/cui https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160921140920/ht...

by desas 7y ago

Zhyl 7y ago

Is this not what is being withdrawn? But still, just going by the link you have a list of principles: https://beta.nhs.uk/service-manual/design-principles https://beta.nhs.uk/service-manual/design-principles Which are all well and good, but are more akin to a 'vision' than technical design principles (especially with regard to preference of tradeoffs, data management, priority of platforms etc). The rest of it seems to be strongly geared towards the web. It may well be that the NHS only wants to collaborate on public-facing web services, much like GOV.UK and the Government Digital Service, but this would need to be either extended or abstracted to be applicable to, say, administrative systems.

trnglina 7y ago
> Is this not what is being withdrawn? What's being withdrawn is their original CUI, linked in the article [0]. From what I can tell, this is very distinct from their new digital service manual, which seems to be replacing the old CUI. > ...but this would need to be either extended or abstracted to be applicable to, say, administrative systems. Based on nothing more than a rough skim of the CUI, admittedly, it seems like the original was a very web/interface-oriented design system in the first place. A focus on web components makes sense, since administrative systems can be implemented with a web-based frontend, and web design systems can be adapted to other user interfaces, because they provide a set of baseline, expected behaviours to replicate. [0]: https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160921140920/http://systems.digital.nhs.uk/data/cui https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160921140920/ht...