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Over the past few years, it seems to me, that HN is suffering a bit from the eternal september effect. It seems (again, to me) that many HN commentators are ve

Over the past few years, it seems to me, that HN is suffering a bit from the eternal september effect. It seems (again, to me) that many HN commentators are very technically knowledgeable, but are sorely lacking in understanding politics, social sciences, liberal arts, etc. It also seems (again, to me) that there has been a lot more authoritarian beliefs expressed by the comments. Take my opinion and observations for what you will.

TeMPOraL 7y ago
In my experience, it's usually the people who've been here for long that tend to express views differing from what we're all supposed to believe. So maybe it's a reverse eternal September? Maybe it's a reflection of a growing disillusionment with geopolitics and its reporting in western media? I mean, the story looks pretty damning on the face of it, but you have to consider that the last time the same media called a ruler a "bad guy" and people acted on it, it ended up completely wrecking a perfectly fine nation (Libya). Some time before that, the US wrecked another nation (Iraq), justifying it by fabricated stories people bought into at the time. I think you can excuse people for their lack of trust.
- discreteevent 7y ago
  The guy was bad and the action taken was bad. One can't be afraid to say something in case someone might overreact to it.
- TomMckenny 7y ago
  There is zero possibility that anything like that will happened to Turkey just as there is zero possibility of that happening to Saudi Arabia for their journalist murdering. The current rulership of the US (and Poland for that mater) actively dislike academia and the free press. Also, the US will need to use Turkey for whatever it plans to do to Iran. So if anything, revealing Erdogan's atrocities is annoying to the current leadership not helping. > what we're all supposed to believe...growing disillusionment with geopolitics and its reporting in western media Since we're talking about the NYT, I must say that at this time the US is overwhelmingly controlled by a party that condemns the media and its own free press as a lying enemy of the people. This is why the hated there grew enormously in the last few years. I understand there are similar forces in several other nations.

TeMPOraL 7y ago

In my experience, it's usually the people who've been here for long that tend to express views differing from what we're all supposed to believe. So maybe it's a reverse eternal September? Maybe it's a reflection of a growing disillusionment with geopolitics and its reporting in western media? I mean, the story looks pretty damning on the face of it, but you have to consider that the last time the same media called a ruler a "bad guy" and people acted on it, it ended up completely wrecking a perfectly fine nation (Libya). Some time before that, the US wrecked another nation (Iraq), justifying it by fabricated stories people bought into at the time. I think you can excuse people for their lack of trust.

discreteevent 7y ago
The guy was bad and the action taken was bad. One can't be afraid to say something in case someone might overreact to it.
TomMckenny 7y ago
There is zero possibility that anything like that will happened to Turkey just as there is zero possibility of that happening to Saudi Arabia for their journalist murdering. The current rulership of the US (and Poland for that mater) actively dislike academia and the free press. Also, the US will need to use Turkey for whatever it plans to do to Iran. So if anything, revealing Erdogan's atrocities is annoying to the current leadership not helping. > what we're all supposed to believe...growing disillusionment with geopolitics and its reporting in western media Since we're talking about the NYT, I must say that at this time the US is overwhelmingly controlled by a party that condemns the media and its own free press as a lying enemy of the people. This is why the hated there grew enormously in the last few years. I understand there are similar forces in several other nations.