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> I understood that we do not understand There are many things we don't understand, and as time pass we gradually understand more and more of them. What does t
by Voloskaya 7y ago
> I understood that we do not understand
There are many things we don't understand, and as time pass we gradually understand more and more of them.
What does this have to do with the existence or not of God? Do you go back and forth between atheist/theist every time a new answer is discovered and a new question is asked?
- eternalny1 7y ago> There are many things we don't understand, and as time pass we gradually understand more and more of them. What does this have to do with the existence or not of God? How did it start?
- VyperCard 7y agoNothing cannot exist. Therefore everything that can exist exists.
- vlunkr 7y agoThis idea is called "God of the gaps" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps.
- eternalny1 7y agoGood link. If anyone who has a true understanding of the concept of "nothing" can point me towards a Big Bang Theory I'd be happy to entertain.
- dogofthegasp 7y agoChristian mystical theology has never had a problem with the god of the gaps argument. It's always postulated that God was something so utterly alien from us (prior to time itself!) that we can know him only through revelation. The nature of God lies in the realm of the unknown, for our finite minds cannot grasp the infinite. Knowledge of God is given only through experience and his grace. What has been revealed is logic-defying and mind-bending, although it has a certain paternicity of its own. Whether the God of the Gaps points you towards atheism or theism depends on your concept of the unknown. If you think of it as a fixed sized bucket of things gradually trending towards zero due to the effort of science, then you are an atheist. If you think of the unknown as practically limitless in size and our process of discovery as barely scratching the surface, then you are pointed towards theism. Generally, materialists trend towards the former and phenomenologists towards the latter.
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- vlunkr 7y agoAs the wikipedia article stats, the idea was proposed first by Christians rather than skeptics, arguing that it's a weak form of faith, so you're definitely right on that point. > Whether the God of the Gaps points you towards atheism or theism depends on your concept of the unknown I really like this assessment. Looking at the sibling comments here, most seem to think all questions will be answered eventually, but I suppose that's impossible to know, since we don't even know what all the questions are yet.
- 50656E6973 7y ago>There are many things we don't understand, and as time pass we gradually understand more and more of them. On the contrary, when it comes to the fundamental nature of the universe, the more we've come to understand, the more we've come to realize how much even more we do not understand.
- Voloskaya 7y agoThis is not the contrary. We realize better how much we do not understand, but we do understand more and more. More things are moving from 'unknown unknowns' to 'known unknowns', this is a progress in understanding, not the other way around.
- 50656E6973 7y agoWhen our understanding takes one step forward and 2 steps back, there is a net loss of comprehensive understanding
- Voloskaya 7y agoDepends if you care about actual comprehension or perceived comprehension. I care about the former.
- 50656E6973 7y agoWhen Copernicus mathematically determined that the sun was at the center of the universe rather than the earth, was that "actual comprehension", or "perceived comprehension"?
- eternalny1 7y agoGood luck with this coming full-circle when you have to create all of this, from nothing. "Good Lord" Don't worry he's cool with that.