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Just to clarify that all tipping in the US works like this. The rest of western countries pays a fair wage and then tip is a bonus the waiter gets to keep (or s

Just to clarify that all tipping in the US works like this. The rest of western countries pays a fair wage and then tip is a bonus the waiter gets to keep (or shares with other staff in some contexts), but it's not expected to be part of pay.

Pfhreak 7y ago
It's not even all tipping in the US. Several states work the way you describe.
- brianwawok 7y ago
  So what, it raises the waiter minimum wage from $2.50 an hour to $7.25 an hour? When the average waiter is making / expecting $10-$50+ an hour, it's still the situation OP describes where tips make up the vast majority of their pay. There are restaurants that do the higher prices no tips thing, but I am not aware of any states where you can show up at a random restaurant and get paid $30 an hour to wait tables?
  - Sohcahtoa82 7y ago
    Minimum wage in Oregon is $11.25/hr with no special considerations for wait staff. Tips are always on top of the hourly wage and do not subsidize the wage paid by the restaurant.
    - SOLAR_FIELDS 7y ago
      Having never been to Oregon: the interesting follow up here is, are you as a customer less incentivized to tip with this knowledge? As a Texas resident who has worked in food service in the past, 20% is near obligatory barring subpar service (Texas is one of the states that pays $2.15 an hour for waitstaff).
      - Sohcahtoa82 7y ago
        Nope. 15-20% is still pretty standard. Also, in my experience, our prices are not higher than the $2.15/hr states.
      - lonelappde 7y ago
        Social inertia is shockingly powerful. Servers make a lot while bussers and janitors and cooks get screwed
awa 7y ago
Counter example, Washington state doesn't allow tips to be counted towards employee's wage (https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/washington-laws-tipped-employees.html https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/washington-laws-tipp...)
- wyre 7y ago
  Washington state‘s minimum wage for tipped workers is also the same minimum wage as other workers though too. Im a server in WA and im making 11.50 plus my tips. In the last state I was in I was making 2.50 plus tips.
  - snowwrestler 7y ago
    But I'm guessing that in either job, you didn't have to take each individual tip to your manager so they could review it and decide how much to take for the house.
mullingitover 7y ago
> Just to clarify that all tipping in the US works like this. Wrong, only a subset of states with corrupt labor practices allow this.

Pfhreak 7y ago

It's not even all tipping in the US. Several states work the way you describe.

brianwawok 7y ago
So what, it raises the waiter minimum wage from $2.50 an hour to $7.25 an hour? When the average waiter is making / expecting $10-$50+ an hour, it's still the situation OP describes where tips make up the vast majority of their pay. There are restaurants that do the higher prices no tips thing, but I am not aware of any states where you can show up at a random restaurant and get paid $30 an hour to wait tables?
- Sohcahtoa82 7y ago
  Minimum wage in Oregon is $11.25/hr with no special considerations for wait staff. Tips are always on top of the hourly wage and do not subsidize the wage paid by the restaurant.
  - SOLAR_FIELDS 7y ago
    Having never been to Oregon: the interesting follow up here is, are you as a customer less incentivized to tip with this knowledge? As a Texas resident who has worked in food service in the past, 20% is near obligatory barring subpar service (Texas is one of the states that pays $2.15 an hour for waitstaff).
    - Sohcahtoa82 7y ago
      Nope. 15-20% is still pretty standard. Also, in my experience, our prices are not higher than the $2.15/hr states.
    - lonelappde 7y ago
      Social inertia is shockingly powerful. Servers make a lot while bussers and janitors and cooks get screwed

awa 7y ago

Counter example, Washington state doesn't allow tips to be counted towards employee's wage (https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/washington-laws-tipped-employees.html https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/washington-laws-tipp...)

wyre 7y ago
Washington state‘s minimum wage for tipped workers is also the same minimum wage as other workers though too. Im a server in WA and im making 11.50 plus my tips. In the last state I was in I was making 2.50 plus tips.
- snowwrestler 7y ago
  But I'm guessing that in either job, you didn't have to take each individual tip to your manager so they could review it and decide how much to take for the house.

mullingitover 7y ago

> Just to clarify that all tipping in the US works like this. Wrong, only a subset of states with corrupt labor practices allow this.