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I find it funny that people would rather believe in the matrix/simulation rather than God

by ibraa 7y ago

yters 7y ago
I'm not sure how the simulation theory even solves anything. It just pushes the problem to the simulator. I guess the assumption is maybe the simulator is much less complex, so makes the problem disappeared through our ignorance about the simulator, which is just the 'god of the gaps' fallacy in techno speak.
- ibraa 7y ago
  The simulator is not less complex, the difference is that the simulator is not subjected to the same limitations/rules/laws of our universe. You either choose the universe itself to be infinite (always have and always will exist) which contradicts all our observations about it, or you assume a higher entity (outside the universe) that is infinite (always have and always will exist). The third option (nothing infinite) means we wouldn't exist at all, because if there's no "start" then you go into an infinite loop trying to find a start and nothing happens. But since we are actually here, then third option is out, and only the second option (higher entity) makes logical sense.
ars 7y ago
The difference is that God wants you to behave a certain way, but a simulation doesn't. People don't like to be told what to do, so they'd rather the simulation. On a "what created the universe" level, they are both identical.
- rowanG077 7y ago
  That's not true. God doesn't imply he wants you to behave a certain way. Most religions work that way but a God which simply created the universe and doesn't care what humanity is doing is a possibility.
bediger4000 7y ago
I don't. The available evidence, if you look at it with a preconceived bias towards some theological origin, seems to indicate either a single, quixotic or even malevolent god, or a pantheon that includes tricksters, weirdos and haters. A matrix/simulation origin allows goofy things like ring species, parasites and molluscs with lots of different eye paradigms - they're either glitches or leftovers from the last run, or exercizes in imagination for the matrix runners.
photojosh 7y ago
They're equivalent postulates, but one of those more appealing to the modern secular mind.

I find it funny that people would rather believe in the matrix/simulation rather than God

by ibraa 7y ago

I find it funny that people would rather believe in the matrix/simulation rather than God

I'm not sure how the simulation theory even solves anything. It just pushes the problem to the simulator. I guess the assumption is maybe the simulator is much less complex, so makes the problem disappeared through our ignorance about the simulator, which is just the 'god of the gaps' fallacy in techno speak.

ibraa 7y ago
The simulator is not less complex, the difference is that the simulator is not subjected to the same limitations/rules/laws of our universe. You either choose the universe itself to be infinite (always have and always will exist) which contradicts all our observations about it, or you assume a higher entity (outside the universe) that is infinite (always have and always will exist). The third option (nothing infinite) means we wouldn't exist at all, because if there's no "start" then you go into an infinite loop trying to find a start and nothing happens. But since we are actually here, then third option is out, and only the second option (higher entity) makes logical sense.

ars 7y ago

The difference is that God wants you to behave a certain way, but a simulation doesn't. People don't like to be told what to do, so they'd rather the simulation. On a "what created the universe" level, they are both identical.

rowanG077 7y ago
That's not true. God doesn't imply he wants you to behave a certain way. Most religions work that way but a God which simply created the universe and doesn't care what humanity is doing is a possibility.

bediger4000 7y ago

I don't. The available evidence, if you look at it with a preconceived bias towards some theological origin, seems to indicate either a single, quixotic or even malevolent god, or a pantheon that includes tricksters, weirdos and haters. A matrix/simulation origin allows goofy things like ring species, parasites and molluscs with lots of different eye paradigms - they're either glitches or leftovers from the last run, or exercizes in imagination for the matrix runners.

photojosh 7y ago

They're equivalent postulates, but one of those more appealing to the modern secular mind.