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I've met some. I used to date a vegan. They were great. I ate lots of vegan food. Some of it was good, some of it wasn't. I still end up eating vegan meals oft

I've met some. I used to date a vegan. They were great. I ate lots of vegan food. Some of it was good, some of it wasn't. I still end up eating vegan meals often, but not intentionally. They suffered no hypocrisies and we often discussed the nature of their beliefs without incident. There are several flavors of vegan hypocrisy, and they all stem from a lack of philosophical consideration: * "I won't eat anything with a face." * "cow farts" * "Everybody can afford to be vegan." * Using "The Jungle" as a proxy for modern slaughterhouse conditions. (Heck, thinking about it, even "Fast Food Nation" is starting to become a little dated.) * Vegans with cats or dogs as pets. Dogs do poorly on vegan diets, while cats must eat meat; there's often a lurking contradiction about animal rights somewhere in there. * Vegans who crush house spiders. * Introducing vegans to Jainism is always hilarious; they almost never have heard of Jains and are surprised to learn about people that are even more religious about animals and morality! That all said, it's been nearly a decade since I've run into anybody like this, and perhaps it is a juvenile form of veganism that only manifests at universities and bars.

sametmax 7y ago
We all live in contradictions. That doesn't make you a bad person, just human. You are yourself against slavery (I hope:)), while typing this comment on a machine with some parts made by slave children. If you go that way, everybody is an hypocrite, and we are loosing the sense of the word.
- lidHanteyk 7y ago
  Hardly! Hypocrisy should always be examined. Let's take your example. I am currently typing on a computer, it's true, and indeed it likely contains minerals and parts made by slaves. The computer was sold to me by local wage-slaves. The computer was produced not just by humans, but also by robots[0]. We can thus see that slavery is not ended in the world, and that there are several axes (geographic, economic, (in)human) upon which we can still improve our efforts to understand and end slavery. We become better people by learning, by examining, and by seeking to eliminate hypocritical beliefs within ourselves. [0] The word "robot" has a fascinating history of its own. This quote is a good portal to the past: "Sulla isn't a person, Miss Glory, she's a robot."

sametmax 7y ago

We all live in contradictions. That doesn't make you a bad person, just human. You are yourself against slavery (I hope:)), while typing this comment on a machine with some parts made by slave children. If you go that way, everybody is an hypocrite, and we are loosing the sense of the word.

lidHanteyk 7y ago
Hardly! Hypocrisy should always be examined. Let's take your example. I am currently typing on a computer, it's true, and indeed it likely contains minerals and parts made by slaves. The computer was sold to me by local wage-slaves. The computer was produced not just by humans, but also by robots[0]. We can thus see that slavery is not ended in the world, and that there are several axes (geographic, economic, (in)human) upon which we can still improve our efforts to understand and end slavery. We become better people by learning, by examining, and by seeking to eliminate hypocritical beliefs within ourselves. [0] The word "robot" has a fascinating history of its own. This quote is a good portal to the past: "Sulla isn't a person, Miss Glory, she's a robot."