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No joke, we recently went to a BYOD model with no "assistance". I'm expected to be available 24/7 in most cases. So I'm refusing to be available until I get som

No joke, we recently went to a BYOD model with no "assistance". I'm expected to be available 24/7 in most cases. So I'm refusing to be available until I get some compensation.

ianai 7y ago
Expect to be fired. That’s, unfortunately, the labor market reality.
- asark 7y ago
  Labor market reality's also that everyone's falling over themselves to hire developers. Won't last, but that's what's up right now.
- nathan_long 7y ago
  Depends highly on the employee's value to the company. Also, if the employee has very marketable skills, they may be happy to leave a job whose hourly rate has suddenly dropped.
- joe5150 7y ago
  we're pretty close to full employment. lots of industries are job-seekers' markets right now. which doesn't mean that management recognizes this and wouldn't do something stupid like fire a good worker, but that doesn't have a lot to do with the labor market.
- elbrian 7y ago
  I'm still waiting, 5+ years later...
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wikibob 7y ago
It's a very competitive labor market. For employers. If you are highly skilled, you are highly in demand. Therefore, demand good treatment. Tech industry compensation has never been higher: http://levels.fyi/comp.html http://levels.fyi/comp.html Google pays for on-call hours. You are credited with 33.3% time for each hour on call if you have a 30 minute response requirement, and 66.6% time for each hour on call if you have a 5 minute response requirement. These can be taken as extra holiday, or cashed out. [0] [0] Among other public sources: https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/41v0ol/i_might_reject_an_unattractive_google_sreswe/cz5gky0/ https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/41v0ol/i...
- guitarbill 7y ago
  The really dumb thing is paying for overtime works great. Some younger employees want to do it for the extra cash or vacation for a longer holiday. I know there were times I wanted to work on a holiday day/bank holiday to save up time in lieu. The problem is companies where default on-call becomes part of the culture. They also have little incentive to fix terrible ops. I hear AWS can be like this, depending on the service.
djsumdog 7y ago
I'd leave. Unless you're a contractor who gets paid a lot and equipment costs are expected in that contract (similar to plumbers, carpenters, etc.) there is no reason for a full-time/salaried employ to purchase their own IT equipment. That's just insane.

No joke, we recently went to a BYOD model with no "assistance". I'm expected to be available 24/7 in most cases. So I'm refusing to be available until I get some compensation.

ianai 7y ago

Expect to be fired. That’s, unfortunately, the labor market reality.

asark 7y ago
Labor market reality's also that everyone's falling over themselves to hire developers. Won't last, but that's what's up right now.
nathan_long 7y ago
Depends highly on the employee's value to the company. Also, if the employee has very marketable skills, they may be happy to leave a job whose hourly rate has suddenly dropped.
joe5150 7y ago
we're pretty close to full employment. lots of industries are job-seekers' markets right now. which doesn't mean that management recognizes this and wouldn't do something stupid like fire a good worker, but that doesn't have a lot to do with the labor market.
elbrian 7y ago
I'm still waiting, 5+ years later...

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wikibob 7y ago

It's a very competitive labor market. For employers. If you are highly skilled, you are highly in demand. Therefore, demand good treatment. Tech industry compensation has never been higher: http://levels.fyi/comp.html http://levels.fyi/comp.html Google pays for on-call hours. You are credited with 33.3% time for each hour on call if you have a 30 minute response requirement, and 66.6% time for each hour on call if you have a 5 minute response requirement. These can be taken as extra holiday, or cashed out. [0] [0] Among other public sources: https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/41v0ol/i_might_reject_an_unattractive_google_sreswe/cz5gky0/ https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/41v0ol/i...

guitarbill 7y ago
The really dumb thing is paying for overtime works great. Some younger employees want to do it for the extra cash or vacation for a longer holiday. I know there were times I wanted to work on a holiday day/bank holiday to save up time in lieu. The problem is companies where default on-call becomes part of the culture. They also have little incentive to fix terrible ops. I hear AWS can be like this, depending on the service.

djsumdog 7y ago

I'd leave. Unless you're a contractor who gets paid a lot and equipment costs are expected in that contract (similar to plumbers, carpenters, etc.) there is no reason for a full-time/salaried employ to purchase their own IT equipment. That's just insane.