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Pretty much agree with this sentiment regarding hardware/culture. Also the salaries are acceptable (imo) compared to fairly high paying US jobs if you compare

by kriro 7y ago

Pretty much agree with this sentiment regarding hardware/culture. Also the salaries are acceptable (imo) compared to fairly high paying US jobs if you compare real working hours (vacation time, real 40h workweeks etc.). With a family there's even more benefits. Cost of living also tends to be fairly low (with a high quality of life) compared to higher paying places.

TulliusCicero 7y ago
High paying American bigcorps mostly have perfectly fine work life balance. Getting double the vacation time (6 weeks instead of 3) when I moved from the US to Germany was very nice, but going back I'll have 5 weeks, which isn't too bad.
- oblio 7y ago
  > Getting double the vacation time (6 weeks instead of 3) when I moved from the US to Germany was very nice, but going back I'll have 5 weeks, which isn't too bad. I keep hearing this. Yes, you will get 5 weeks. But what about your wife, your uncle, your friends? In Germany they're all guaranteed to have the same number of days off, access to healthcare, etc. When you have kids you have a bunch of weeks/months off before the child is born and more after. In the US, as long as you're young, healthy, rich and selfish, life is grand :D
  - TulliusCicero 7y ago
    Nitpick: the number of vacation days in Germany does vary a bit, though by much less than in the US. Agreed, I'd love it if all Americans were entitled to 5 or 6 weeks of vacation, plus the various other benefits that are standard in most of western Europe. Unfortunately, the GOP exists, so that's not happening anytime soon.
  - tomp 7y ago
    But that's the point of US, no? It's the best country for the best people. So, the best people go to the US... (well, many at least... I'm still holding out... for now, I value European way of life but I envy US political & legal systems, in particular their freedom of speech).
    - oblio 7y ago
      You can can't have 300 million best people. You can't even have 100 million. And once someone acquires citizenship, their descendants can't lose it, provided it's their only citizenship.
    - midgetjones 7y ago
      This is the funniest thing I've ever read on HN

by kriro 7y ago

TulliusCicero 7y ago

High paying American bigcorps mostly have perfectly fine work life balance. Getting double the vacation time (6 weeks instead of 3) when I moved from the US to Germany was very nice, but going back I'll have 5 weeks, which isn't too bad.

oblio 7y ago
> Getting double the vacation time (6 weeks instead of 3) when I moved from the US to Germany was very nice, but going back I'll have 5 weeks, which isn't too bad. I keep hearing this. Yes, you will get 5 weeks. But what about your wife, your uncle, your friends? In Germany they're all guaranteed to have the same number of days off, access to healthcare, etc. When you have kids you have a bunch of weeks/months off before the child is born and more after. In the US, as long as you're young, healthy, rich and selfish, life is grand :D
- TulliusCicero 7y ago
  Nitpick: the number of vacation days in Germany does vary a bit, though by much less than in the US. Agreed, I'd love it if all Americans were entitled to 5 or 6 weeks of vacation, plus the various other benefits that are standard in most of western Europe. Unfortunately, the GOP exists, so that's not happening anytime soon.
- tomp 7y ago
  But that's the point of US, no? It's the best country for the best people. So, the best people go to the US... (well, many at least... I'm still holding out... for now, I value European way of life but I envy US political & legal systems, in particular their freedom of speech).
  - oblio 7y ago
    You can can't have 300 million best people. You can't even have 100 million. And once someone acquires citizenship, their descendants can't lose it, provided it's their only citizenship.
  - midgetjones 7y ago
    This is the funniest thing I've ever read on HN