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I, and the people around me, mock vegans because 50% of vegans I've encountered are hypocritical. They don't eat meat or animal products, because of the "envir
by emdowling 7y ago
I, and the people around me, mock vegans because 50% of vegans I've encountered are hypocritical.
They don't eat meat or animal products, because of the "environment", but then eat fruit and vegetables that were imported from thousands of miles away by air. On a weekend, they drop pills, the trafficking and cultivation of which costs lives every single day. And never mind their flights halfway around the world for vacation twice a year, which do more to harm the environment than a year of not eating animal products.
Vegans make an earnest attempt who practice what they preach, across their entire lifestyle, have my utmost respect.
- KitDuncan 7y agoI want to see stats, that vegans consume more drugs and go on vacation more than the meat eater of the same social status. Me and my vegan friends actively try to avoid flying as much as possible. We probably eat more fruit, but it's still orders of magnitude more environmentally friendly than meat and dairy. Also if you are concerned about work conditions in the drug industry, you might also want to look into the conditions of slaughterhouse workers. Many of them are psychologically scarred for life. https://metro.co.uk/2017/12/31/how-killing-animals-everyday-leaves-slaughterhouse-workers-traumatised-7175087/ https://metro.co.uk/2017/12/31/how-killing-animals-everyday-... Paywalled source: https://brill.com/abstract/journals/soan/21/4/article-p395_5.xml https://brill.com/abstract/journals/soan/21/4/article-p395_5...
- emdowling 7y agoAt no point did I say more vegans do this than non-vegans. I would say the proportion of people who engage in this behaviour is broadly the same regardless of diet. My point is that being a vegan in the name of the environment and animal cruelty, and still engaging in drugs and long-haul travel, which is far more harmful than a diet change, is hypocritical. If you’re truly a vegan for environment and ethical reasons, abstain from travel. You sound like one of the exceptions who practices what you preach.
- drcongo 7y agoSo, you're saying that incremental positive change is pointless? Would you call someone who fixes one bug in a codebase a hypocrite because they didn't fix all the bugs?
- AstralStorm 7y agoFor yourself, no. Proselytising is though, effectiveness compared to time required is miniscule compared to organizing and pressuring businesses and politicians directly.