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Okay, I will try harder, I suppose I owe that to you to understand your arguments and where you come from. I was unclear, I meant that your arguments leave one
by ryacko 7y ago
Okay, I will try harder, I suppose I owe that to you to understand your arguments and where you come from.
I was unclear, I meant that your arguments leave one with the inference that Epstein would dedicate the remainder of his life against Google. I mean petty man as in man motivated by petty reasons.
I am unaware if you really meant to imply that or if you’ve been repeatedly communicating unclearly.
- tptacek 7y agoOnce again, my argument is simple: 1. There is clear evidence that Epstein holds a grudge against Google based on the quarantine they put on his website. 2. It is not clear that this grudge determines his opinion about Google's influence on elections. 3. However, the grudge is relevant information in anyone's consideration of Epstein's opinions. Do with it what you will.
- ryacko 7y ago1. The evidence shows that Epstein was angered by Google’s actions, but there is no evidence of his present emotional state. I don’t know anyone who would be angry for seven years for an automated notation warning caution for their own website. 2. Yes, but it is not even clear he holds this opinion or is being paid to parrot viewpoints he is paid for. 3. No evidence there is a grudge, see my argument in item #1.
- tptacek 7y agoLet's again be clear that Google's "actions" here seem to sum up to: 1. Noticing that this guy's site was serving malware --- which Epstein was later forced to concede that it was. 2. Putting a warning on the search engine referral.
- ryacko 7y agoOkay, I have been convinced by your enthusiastic arguments that Google is good.
- tptacek 7y agoI don't think you'll find me making that argument in this thread either. Although: the malware warnings are clearly good. It is a pretty obnoxious message board trope that anyone who disagrees with one's argument must be fully directionally committed to any "compatible" argument; it can't just be that your argument is bad, it must be that I'm defending Google because of an abiding affection for Google. Gross.
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- ryacko 7y agoWell, personally I dislike Google because they suspended my account once and someone affiliated with Google insinuated the reason why on 4chan, and they later unblocked the account, which if it ever becomes publicly confirmed would flush any PR expenditures by Google down the toilet, but beyond that, yes, gross.